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Offline Raptor

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« Reply #390 on: September 13, 2006, 11:12:42 PM »
you guys are being too quick to jump the gun. I'm having fun with it. Sure it would be better wih more numbers but overall it's fun. 200 sure has cleaned up, it's a lot more friendly online imo. More encouraging for me to sticka round

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« Reply #391 on: September 13, 2006, 11:12:48 PM »
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Everything in ANY business is a work in progress with fluid customer desires and 'needs'.  The businesses that address those desires and needs the best and most economical ways are the ones that succeed.  AT LEAST HTC IS FREAKING TRYING INSTEAD OF SAYING 'HERE'S YOUR PLACE TO PLAY DEAL WITH IT'.

 


You must have been one of the few folks that got a survey and asked what you might think about a change like this?

See, I'm on the outside of that inner circle, they have my money, and I'm handed a different product that what I am used to.

You are right, we can't please everybody, but in this game it doesn't seem we bother to ASK the customers first.  We just do it and then label everyone who doesn't like the change as being a whiner or unwilling to change.

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« Reply #392 on: September 13, 2006, 11:13:53 PM »
Prop, Sim, wrong thread. This is the "I SWEAR TO GOD I'LL BLOW MY HEAD OFF IF I CAN'T FLY IN A HUGE PACK OF LA7S WITH MY SQUAD OF 400 PEOPLE WHO ARE MY CLOSEST REAL LIFE FRIENDS BECAUSE I DONT WANT FAIR FIGHTS I WANT IRC WITH AIRPLANES" thread.

You should put that happy fuzzy **** in another thread.
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Re: What changed that made this necessary?
« Reply #393 on: September 13, 2006, 11:15:56 PM »
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I can't imagine HTC would willingly fragment its customer base _ a base that I think everyone would agree would list camaraderie and community as the main reasons they continue to fly year after year.
I also can't imagine that this was done on a whim or as some sort of an experiment.

At some point the community, any community actually, can become too big to remain "a community".  It fragments itself with conflicting priorities and intrests.

Airwarrior had 1200 players online nightly, with 3 duplicate arenas of the most popular setup, and a number of other arenas.  Yet, former AW players here today consider themselves all from the same community, whether they were "FR" or "RR", "euro", or "pac".  They just had more options of where to hang out.  And in groups sized where you could get to know people, instead of being a face in the croud.

Frankly any fracturing isn't being done by HTC.  Its being done by a player base too difused and populace to put on any kind of unified front for community standards.  Just read the incesent whining on the message boards.  One group wants a small corner of the map for their prefered game play, and another group can't help themselves to grief that corner of the map.  I for one am optimistic about the change.

The MA at peak times has become like the biggest loudest hot nightclub.  The nightclub can be fun, but its not always condusive to things you'd like to do (shoot pool with friends, watch a game on the big screen with friends, actually carry a conversation without having to yell in the other persons ear).  Think of it as a rennovation of the night club to a disco/sports bar/deck and beach club.  I can't believe being given more options is so terrible.

They'll figure out the tweeks needed to make things work smoothly.

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« Reply #394 on: September 13, 2006, 11:19:44 PM »
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You canīt run a company by polls.


But you better make the right decision...

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« Reply #395 on: September 13, 2006, 11:20:30 PM »
simaril

the newness fun will wear off and the truth that it sucks will remain...

yes...they have accomplished an arcade style game...but i already had "tribes" for that.....

again... if you didnt begin like some of us with Air Warrior you have no idea of the "Fun" that awaits you.  be prepared for the JOY of full arenas where your friends are.....the AWESOMENESS of unbalanced arenas....the WHOOP-TEE-DOO of eny limiters....the EXCITEMENT of one squad dominating an arena...AND learn terms like "milkrunner" and "B-n-Zer"

Hey...guess what?  Air Warrior freaking died!!!!   it became obsolete!!!  im astounded that we have decided to go backwards in our game design...
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« Reply #396 on: September 13, 2006, 11:22:05 PM »
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I agree

  it suposed to be a discusion and notice, not just bill us for fresh pizza and deliver cold mashed potatoes
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« Reply #397 on: September 13, 2006, 11:23:19 PM »
At this point I have no opinion either way.  Flew in the Early war most of the time, was very fun....still had to deal with the Hoicane2c.  

Decided to try the Mid-war, encountered the hoin la5's.  :confused:

Tried one flight in the Late war, got vulched by a N1k.

Guess it didn't change all that much

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Re: Re: What changed that made this necessary?
« Reply #398 on: September 13, 2006, 11:24:11 PM »
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Frankly any fracturing isn't being done by HTC.  Its being done by a player base too difused and populace to put on any kind of unified front for community standards.  Just read the incesent whining on the message boards.  One group wants a small corner of the map for their prefered game play, and another group can't help themselves to grief that corner of the map.  I for one am optimistic about the change.


Everyone that is now on suicide watch over this change needs to read this paragraph. Then when you are done read it again.

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« Reply #399 on: September 13, 2006, 11:24:53 PM »
What Murdr said.
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« Reply #400 on: September 13, 2006, 11:27:22 PM »
Wow...Hubs made a snide comment....how wierd is that?:rolleyes:

You are so right hubs and grits...i have seen the light!!!

Thanks for the input!!! please continue to use ch 200 and this forum as your squad channel!!!  we really cant wait to hear the crap that falls out of your mouths next!!! and if you used your own text ch or vox, you might discover we never cared and would never ask!

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« Reply #401 on: September 13, 2006, 11:27:52 PM »
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If you have to have an incentive... then you are trying to create a desire that doesn't exist.

If the idea appeals to the customer base, then the customer base will support it.  If they don't support it... the idea was a Turkey.

Put the limits on all arenas up around 600 and see where the customers go.  

Then you will know what the customer base wants... not what someone supposes they want.


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« Reply #402 on: September 13, 2006, 11:29:56 PM »
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« Reply #403 on: September 13, 2006, 11:30:25 PM »
^^^^

i agree with 4510..turn up the limits and see where poeple gravitate
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« Reply #404 on: September 13, 2006, 11:32:02 PM »
Hopefully, this will  create a place, and a reason, to introduce some well needed and desired earlier and middle war planes.

If AH remained as is then there really would be no use in putting any effort into modeling new planes except the very late ones. Even then the number of late war planes left not modeled is limited. No matter what plane gets introduced in the future the old AH main had reached its 'peak' and no new plane could make it 'better' [read as different].

I am not sure about the whole separate arena thing, why not just separate areas on one large map for late, mid, early, etc..?

I am sure they have their reasons for the separate arenas but in the end it doesn't much matter to me. Anything to change AH at this point is 'good' at least insofar as it provides something new, even if it's just for a short period...