Arena format change

[Arlo]

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posted by Pyro!and perhaps even time periods outside of WWII such as WWI or the Korean War.

Spanish Civil War

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[SFCHONDO]

At first I was pissed and hated it. After playing in each arena for a few hours tonight, I am starting to like it as far as the plane sets go. It's the numbers that I guess I am having a problem with. If each arena had the numbers like the old MA it would be perfect.

Wonder what the chances would be to have 1 week EW setup, 1 week MW setup, 1 week LW setup, then the final week of the camp have the old MA setup. Utilizing 1 Arena. This way each week offers something different and we still have good numbers in the arena. IMO that would be the way to go.

[JB88]

Originally posted by Grits
That is not a vote, that is rent. You are a guest in HT's house.

as he is in ours.  not to press the point, but it is as true as your statement.

[SFCHONDO]

At first I was pissed and hated it. After playing in each arena for a few hours tonight, I am starting to like it as far as the plane sets go. It's the numbers that I guess I am having a problem with. If each arena had the numbers like the old MA it would be perfect.

Wonder what the chances would be to have 1 week EW setup, 1 week MW setup, 1 week LW setup, then the final week of the camp have the old MA setup. Utilizing 1 Arena. This way each week offers something different and we still have good numbers in the arena. IMO that would be the way to go.

[SFCHONDO]

I would like to see 1 week EW setup, 1 week MW setup, 1 week LW setup, then the final week of the camp have the old MA setup. Utilizing 1 Arena. This way each week offers something different and we still have good numbers in the arena. If the map gets reset the setup stays the same. It wouldn't change or start over just because a map changed. IMO that would be the way to go. I personnally don't think the strickly LA7 or Spit 16 drivers would whine for very long once they got used to learning how to fly harder planes, besides each era has some sort of spit or the LA5 which is extremely close to the LA7.

[Amigo]

Originally posted by SFCHONDO

Wonder what the chances would be to have 1 week EW setup, 1 week MW setup, 1 week LW setup, then the final week of the camp have the old MA setup. Utilizing 1 Arena. This way each week offers something different and we still have good numbers in the arena. IMO that would be the way to go.

This is EXACTLY what I proposed in my other thread.  With added possible bonus of actually re-creating WWI through time.  For all 700 pilots in one arena.

Check it out and reply with your opinion please.  Thread is "How is breaking up community into 4 servers good again?"  Thread starter = Amigo.

[Amigo]

Originally posted by SFCHONDO
I would like to see 1 week EW setup, 1 week MW setup, 1 week LW setup, then the final week of the camp have the old MA setup. Utilizing 1 Arena. This way each week offers something different and we still have good numbers in the arena. If the map gets reset the setup stays the same. It wouldn't change or start over just because a map changed. IMO that would be the way to go. I personnally don't think the strickly LA7 or Spit 16 drivers would whine for very long once they got used to learning how to fly harder planes, besides each era has some sort of spit or the LA5 which is extremely close to the LA7.

Agreed.  The details of how the rotation changes is not important to me, nearly as much as KEEPING 700 PEOPLE TOGETHER ON ONE SERVER, yet still providing a good and fair challenge no matter what era the aircraft.

[Yeager]

nah...friggen single MA was just a clusterph*k with any more than 400 people onboard and the maps were so big the left hand had no idea what the right foot was doing.  It was simply a matter of there being too much of everything for any real sense of community.

Since Im on autoclimb Ill just leave it at that for now.  Ive had some great fights in the last few hours (far better than the usual) and have really enjoyed my time online.  Its all good for now.

[doobs]

Originally posted by rshubert
 Dale seems to play his cards pretty close to the chest, and why not?  It's his business.  And he is ARROGANT,  

Met the Man far from arrogant, drunk yes arrogant no.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by doobs
Met the Man far from arrogant, drunk yes arrogant no.

A memory I will cherish for all time. But I'm not sure how I got home. And somebody threw up beside my car, dammit.

[KaK3]

Please Tell me this is a BAD JOKE. I agree whole heartily  Amigo. The comradierie and squad play has always been what spending time online playing is about for me.

[FALCONWING]

Originally posted by Grits
I'm still here 14 years later, how many of the "win the war" crowd can say that?

since 1994 for me...same squad whole time...already did the furball..score thing...decided i like the comraderie....

how many hours did you play over last 6 months??? hhehehe

[Flayed1]

Well I spent the entire day from reset to 10:30pm in the early war arena.  I had a blast, very even fights for fighters.  Bombers were great, I could fly 88's and actually not worry all that much about getting banged by 10 LA-7's lol  and with only T-34's and M8's as tank options the gv fights were exceptional, I actually had to manuver around my oponents to get to the sweet spots instead of the usuall sit and fire meathod.

 I would have flown in the mid war arena, it looks to have a nice plane set and has my KI-61 and YAK9T in it but #'s were low. I'm guessing that they may increas after the new has worn off of the early war.


  Problems I see....
  First is the cap on the arenas, it should be bigger and not just because I belong to a large squad and this makes for any squad activity to be extreamly hard to plan or even exicute although this is a biggi.   But tonight for example I was driving along in my T-34 and my system crashed and after I rebooted and went to get back into the early war arena it was full.   The mid war like I said didn't have many in it and I really didn't want to fly late war with all the LA's and such not to mention it sounds like they had problems with side balencing...this brings me to the next point.  

 While I see all these reports that Late war had only 30 some odd rooks and mass bish and nits the early war on the other hand had over 100 total rooks and 60 some bish and nits.... Just a tad unbalanced don't ya think??

  Over all I think it could be ok but I think we need more room in each arena.

  Just my thoughts.

  Oh and should I put the map I'm biulding on the back burner and start trying to make a small one?

[Yeager]

I just dont see how the squad life and community is going to be destroyed here.  Its going to change, it has to in order to adjust but jeeze man, kick it up some.  Give it a chance.  Most of the squads Ive watched play tonight seem to be functioning well.

[Amigo]

I fail to understand how 40 people fighting for 130 bases is interesting.

It's an economic scale.  You want to do a hairy mission that needs 20 pilots?  Ok, you need at LEAST 100 pilots online on your side to hopefully get a 20% participation.  With 100, you'll be lucky to get 12 people join.

Honestly, the most people I've seen on even in US primetime is about 600 players (maybe spiking up to 700 briefly).  That's 200 each side, for a few hours, if there's one server.  Now multiply servers by 4.

50 players on each side and server, primetime, if things perfectly balance out.  But they won't, because playing with 50 friendlies to try to take 130 bases against 50 enemies on your target bases is ...  *yawn*.  That's what happens on MA at 3am and it's time to log.

So they won't balance out.  Everybody will pack into one of the 4 servers regularly within a few weeks, and the other 3 will be left to wither on the vine.

Sorry, but you can't take a player primetime base # of 600 players tops, and fragment it into 4 servers and still retain any sense of community and scale.  About a week ago, I saw the Bishops launch a raid of at least 30 bombers (90 with wingmen), and it was the most glorious thing I'd ever seen.  Certainly it took great coordination across several squads and even across alliances.  That is history, unless everyone packs into one server again.

They will.  And then you'll have only a handful of planes to choose from most of the time, instead of a regular ROTATION of time-period appropriate planes to choose from and learn.