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Offline Krusty

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« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2006, 11:11:34 PM »
Roscoroo, I tried that and if it's not the proper hardware, the devices is listed as "not plugged in". So I can't trick it by manually entering the info.

Doc, that doesn't work with these. I don't have the analog "CH pro pedals" -- just analog "CH pedals". These don't slide back and forth, they only pivot in on a single hinge for each footpad. They don't work with the USB adapter (I tried).

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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2006, 12:19:04 AM »
someone ... (insert brain strain here)  has a similer set up ... i dont remember if its the usb peds or not .. its one of the p38 guys .. nomad ? maybe nomak, or perhaps del .... or one of the others .. i just dont remember who .


my ms stick was the older ffb and the peds jumped in on analog .
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« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2006, 12:57:52 AM »
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Roscoroo, I tried that and if it's not the proper hardware, the devices is listed as "not plugged in". So I can't trick it by manually entering the info.

Doc, that doesn't work with these. I don't have the analog "CH pro pedals" -- just analog "CH pedals". These don't slide back and forth, they only pivot in on a single hinge for each footpad. They don't work with the USB adapter (I tried).


No I have the regular CH pedals, not the Pro Pedals.  They do for me and I know I've seen others in here use em that way.  

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« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2006, 12:14:53 PM »
Krusty, have you downloaded and installed the CH analog drivers for WindowsXP?

just a thought, you might want to do this and then make sure you have added the device and picked the correct driver, before going into windows ( joystick/gamecontroller setup) and trying to pick and claibrate it.........


all the CH stuff you are seeing in game controller setup, is installed by default when winXP /WinXP updates SP's are initially loaded, nothing for CH analog controllers is installed by default............this could be your problem........
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« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2006, 05:35:10 PM »
I'm not sure this will help, but I have CH Pedals (gameport) and a Thustmaster FLCS (gameport) F-16-like stick, and WCS MkII (gameport) throttle, all working in Windows XP Pro on a P4.

My soundcard only has one gameport (so all devices are "daisy chained" together), but windows sees it like this:

Device 1 (I also have a USB gamepad) = 3-axis, 2-button Joytstick

In the properites for this device, I have the checkbox enabled for "Rudder pedals". In the Windows Calibration page, there is the white square where I can move the "X" with the joystick. There's a vertical scale for the throttle, and another vertical scale for the rudder. They all work. If all your devices aren't working in the Windows calibration page, they aren't going to work in any game.

Now then, assuming all the calibration controls are working, you can assign things in AH. For me:

X Axis = Analog Inputs Roll
Y Axis = Analog Inputs Pitch
Throttle = Analog Inputs Throttle
Rudder = Analog Inputs Yaw

And it all works fine. I think the key here is that you don't have Windows seeing all the controls first. If windows won't, then a game won't either.

By the way, if your stick programming software lets you map button presses to keystrokes, AND (maybe) the stick also connects to a keyboard connector, when it really is a two-button joystick as far as windows is concerned. If you are mapping buttons to AH commands within AH, then it is a multibutton stick as far as WIndows is concerned.


Hope this helps,
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« Last Edit: September 17, 2006, 05:37:22 PM by llama »

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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2006, 10:09:28 AM »
TC: I installed the CH analog drivers. Before I did none of the CH entries showed up in the "Add new" screen. After a lot did, but none for the item I have.

Llama: I'll give that at try later tonight, and see if it helps any.

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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2006, 02:53:54 PM »
Did you try making a "custom" controler in "Game Controllers" in Control Panel ?


I was reading on the Ch Forum , seems you have to have the pedals connected (dasiy chained) to a joystick to get them to work . This is the same that "38ruk" stated above and still holds true .

 http://www.stickworks.com/  

 I do remember that the above web site had a driver that would work pedals "stand alone" I checked and the driver is for WinMe or Win98 .

We used to use this to get a set of peds working by themselves , it's on the download page but it's not for Winxp . Driver for Analog Pedals using Windows ME or DX8.0+ in Win98


Go shop on Ebay for a cheapo Ch or Thrustmaster that has the connection you need then leave the joystick on the floor under your desk , looks like that would be how to do it .

Like "38ruk" said :)
« Last Edit: September 18, 2006, 03:11:07 PM by airspro »
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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2006, 02:56:02 PM »
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TC: I installed the CH analog drivers. Before I did none of the CH entries showed up in the "Add new" screen. After a lot did, but none for the item I have.
 


ok, if you still have not gotten it to work, add the device manually ( not from the list ) and choose the option "have disk" to load the analog driver, then point it to where you downloaded/installed the analog driver..........

I am using all analog stuff, currently am using regular CH Pedals,  ( i have 2 complete CH fiter stick/throttle/pedal setups  1 with regular CH pedals another with CH pro pedals on WinXP Pro ) and all work very well........

if you plug your stick into them then the pedals into the gameport, the pedals should override the AXIS  and work,  IMHO........   still need to make sure you got the w/ rudder pedals box checked in controller setup.......



wish you the best of luck
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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2006, 09:27:00 PM »
Well I've tried everything. I tried the stickworks webpage downloads. I tried the different suggestions. None of them work.

I guess they just don't work on XP. If I don't get much help from the CH forum I guess I'll just put them in storage like the previous owner did :lol


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« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2006, 04:35:48 PM »
As noted, you cant tell Windows you are using the Sidewinder.  Also, make sure you have Removed the Sidewinder listing from your available joysticks.  Your custom configuration HAS to be the first device listed.  After you clear the Controller window out, so there are none listed, click Add and select the generic joystick setup you want to use, then click the check box for enable rudders and pedals.  That should be the ONLY controller listed.  

Also, if you have more than one gameport (which Windows really doesnt like), make sure your gameport is working.  With more than one you may have conflicts.

Also, "Pro" doesnt indicate USB.  I have "Pro Pedals" but mine are gameport.  All the "Pro" means is that they had toe brakes.
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« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2006, 04:36:37 PM »
Uh, thanks...

Only I'm not looking for a new stick :cool:

I'm trying to get the pedals working

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« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2006, 05:24:46 PM »
Krusty,
just to verify, you said the other guy had put these up on a shelf/or boxed them up for storage? why did he do that? are you sure the pedals are in good working order?

might want to run a check on them with a meter/continuity test of the wires, er um may need some parts replaced possibly?

just a thought since they not working/being noticed
"When one considers just what they should say to a new pilot who is logging in Aces High, the mind becomes confused in the complex maze of info it is necessary for the new player to know. All of it is important; most of it vital; and all of it just too much for one brain to absorb in 1-2 lessons" TC

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« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2006, 05:44:47 PM »
I think he just went to USB "Pro" pedals when XP came out. I gather folks have some problems getting these pedals to work in XP. *shrug*. He said they worked fine, he just upgraded.

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« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2006, 05:51:29 PM »
They work fine in XP, just need a little work to set them up is all.  The only function you lose is the toe brakes, and thats mainly due to the design and lack of a modern interface to take advantage of them, not due to XP.