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What planes are available in EARLY, MID, and LATE war arenas?
« on: September 14, 2006, 11:08:56 AM »
I don't have the game loaded in my PC right now.  I want to know the list of planes and perk planes that are available in...

Early War arena
Mid War arena
Late War arena

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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2006, 12:00:05 PM »
Early War:
A6M2
B5N2
Bf 109E-4
Bf 109F-4
Bf 110C-4b
Boston III
C-47A
C.202
D3A1
F4F-4
Fw 190A-5  ---------------------Perked
Hurricane Mk I
Hurricane Mk IIC
Jeep
Ju 87D-3
Ju 88A-4
Lancaster III  ----------------------Perked
LVTA2
LVTA4
M-16 MGMC
M-3
M-8
P-38G ----------------------Perked
P-40B
P-40E
SBD-5
Spitfire Mk I
Spitfire Mk V
Spitfire Mk IX ------------------------Perked
T-34
TBM-3

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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2006, 12:10:41 PM »
Mid War:

A-20G
A6M2
A6M5b
B-17G
B-26B
Bf 109F-4
Bf 109G-2
Bf 109G-6
Bf 110C-4b
Bf 110G-2
Boston III
C-47A
C.202
C.205
D3A1
F4F-4
F4U-1
F6F-5
FM2
Fw 190A-5
Hurricane Mk IIC
Hurricane Mk IID
Il-2 Type 3
Jeep
Ju 87D-3
Ju 88A-4
Ki-61-I-Tei
Ki-67
Ki-84-Ia
La-5FN
Lancaster III
LVTA2
LVTA4
M-3
M-8
Mosquito Mk VI
Ostwind
P-38G
P-38J
P-40B
P-40E
P-47D-11
P-51B
Panzer IV H
SBD-5
Seafire Mk IIc
Spitfire Mk V
Spitfire Mk IX
Spitfire Mk VIII -----------------------Perked
T-34
TBM-3
Tiger I -----------------------------Perked
Typhoon ---------------------------Perked
Yak-9T

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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2006, 12:14:12 PM »
Late war :
All with the exceptions of some early war rides, same perked rides as in old MA

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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2006, 12:36:59 PM »
Ki-84 is not a mid war plane.


Looking at the plane set lists...

Early War plane sets span 1940 to early 1942

Mid War plane sets span mid 1942 to early 1944

Late War plane sets span mid 1944 to 1945

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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2006, 12:55:27 PM »
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Ki-84 is not a mid war plane.

Depends on your cut-off date. If F6F-5 is included, so should be Ki-84...

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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2006, 01:25:58 PM »
If I took off in a Yak-9T, flew westward and right off the map would I fly into the early war arena with it?

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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2006, 01:33:56 PM »
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If I took off in a Yak-9T, flew westward and right off the map would I fly into the early war arena with it?
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2006, 01:37:01 PM »
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Depends on your cut-off date. If F6F-5 is included, so should be Ki-84...


Lets say the F6F-5 variant can be sub for F6F-3.  There's no difference in performance and guns except that F-5 variant has more drag because of added hardpoints.  

The '84 arrived much later (8-44 in CBI theater and 10-44 in PTO)

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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2006, 01:45:27 PM »
FM2 is not mid war
FM-2 ... 6-44(ETO),10-44(PTO)
http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=164796&highlight=Update4+Aircraft+and+Vehicle+Service+Dates

109G-2 should appear in the "early war" as a perk plane.
109G-2 first appeared in June '42  
Spit 9 is dated July '42 as a perk plane.

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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2006, 03:29:04 PM »
I agree, some of the dates are funky. I was also under the impression that the P38G was a late '42 plane? Yet it's lumped in with "early" war.

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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2006, 03:55:51 PM »
Go through the list below and match the planes by service date and then post / email them to HTC and ask if they would consider making adjustments.

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Aircraft and Vehcile Service Dates

Aircraft
USA
A-20G ... 5-42
B-17G ... 6-43
B-24J ... 5-43
B-26B ... 5-42
C-47A ... 12-41
P-38G ... 11-42
P-38J ... 12-43(ETO) 2-44(PTO)
P-38L ... 7-44
P-40B ... 1-41
P-40E ... 8-41
P-47D-11 ... 3-43(D5) to 1-44(D11)
P-47D-25 ... 5-44
P-47D-40 ... 1-45(ETO)
P-47N ... 6-45
P-51B ... 12-43(ETO),8-44(CBI)
P51D ... 5-44(ETO),1-45(CBI&PTO)
F4F-4 ... 9-41(ETO),5-42(PTO)
FM-2 ... 6-44(ETO),10-44(PTO)
F6F-5 ... 7-44
F4U-1 ... 2-43(ETO),4-44(ETO)
F4U-1D ... 4-44
F4U-1C ... 4-45
F4U-4 ... 4-45
F6F-5 ... 7-44
SBD-5 ... 5-43
TBM-3 ... 2-43

Britain
Boston MK III ... 5-41
Hurricane Mk I ... 5-40
Hurricane IIC ... 4-41
Hurricane IID ... 6-42
Lancaster III ... 3-42
Mosquito Mk VI ... 7-43(ETO),11-43(PTO&CBI)
Spitfire Mk IA ... 8-40
Seafire IIC ... 10-42,11-43(ETO)
Spitfire V ... 4-41
Spitfire VIII ... 7-43
Spitfire Mk IX ... 7-42
Spitfire Mk XIV ... 5-44,7-45(CBI)
Spitfire Mk XVI ... 7-44
Tempest V ... 6-44
Typhoon IB ... 6-43

Soviet
Il-2 Type 3 ... 10-42
La-5FN ... 3-43
La-7 ... 6-44
Yak-9T ... 1-43
Yak-9U ... 7/8-44

Italy
C.202 ... 11-41
C.205 ... 1-43

Japan
A6M2 ... 7-40
A6M5b ... 8-43
B5N2 ... 7-40
D3A-1 ... 7-40
Ki-61 ... 6-43
Ki-84-la ... 8-44 (CBI),10-44(PTO)
Ki-67 ... 4-44
N1K2-J ... 1-45

Germany
Ar 234B ... 12-44
Bf 109E-4 ... 5-40
Bf 109F-4 ... 6-41
Bf 109G-2 ... 6-42
Bf 109G-6 ... 2-43
Bf 109G-14 ... 7-44
Bf 109K-4 ... 10-44
Bf 110C-4b ... 8-40
Bf 110G-2 ... 5-42
Fw 190A-5 ... 6-43
Fw 190A-8 ... 2-44
Fw 190D-9 ... 12-44
Fw 190F-8 ... 4-44
Ju 88A-4 ... 5-41
Me 262 ... 10-44
Me 163 ... 9-44
Ta 152H ... 1-45

Vehicles
USA
LVT(A)2 ...2-44
LVT(A)4 ...3-44
M-3 Halftrack...3-41
M-8 ...9-42
M-16 ...5-43

Germany
Ostwind ... 8-44
Panzer IV Type H ... 8-44
Tiger I ...8-42

Soviet
T-34/76 ... 2-43

Theatres of Operations
PTO - Pacific
ETO - Europe
CBI - China-Burma-India/CHINA-BURMA-INDIA

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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2006, 04:38:20 PM »
Well I think there's a typo on the Tiger 1 entry of that list.

If HTC drew a hard line at June (or July) '42 that would be better, except for 4 major areas:

1) it includes the B26. I don't know your thoughts on the matter, but this thing is nearly unstoppable by early war planes. It would need a perk rating of 100 points per bomber.

2) it excludes the SBD. There are so few attackers, and the SBD is really the earliest allied attack plane we've got.

3) it excludes the IL2. The IL2 we've got is technically a later variant, but there are no soviet aircraft in the "early" setup, and also see note about lack of ground attack aircraft above.

4) This takes out the 190A5. Without the A5 you would get a lot of complaints re: spit9 coming as a counter to the Fw190.


The 109G2 is vital to the early war. There are few planes as lethal as it, tu be sure, but the importance is really the armament. The bomb rack, the gondoals, would make it a multirole craft, capable of hunting bombers (soemthing few early fighters can do) or dropping toolsheds. I honestly can't remember if the G-2 kept its centerline bomb in the 109 update. I'd hope so... The G2 would also be something of a counter to the spit9, but I think the spit9 would need perkage because it dominates the entire planeset for june/july 1942.

Also, get the p38G out of the early war setup!

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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2006, 04:52:47 PM »
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Well I think there's a typo on the Tiger 1 entry of that list.
Don't think it's a typo. List does say 'Service Dates'. They were deployed in August '42. First combat in September '42.

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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2006, 05:03:23 PM »
Shouldn't P47-D25 be in the mid war areana?
If I'm not mistaken, it entered service in the beggining of 44. It would make a nice perk ride there.

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