New arena format Part 2 - Use this thread, don't open duplicates

[Hammy]

Originally posted by Meddog:

Here is an idea. Maybe Hitech should shut the game down for a week to teach you dweebs who owns this game. He has the right to make what ever changes he sees fit and you have two choices here either play the game in the format inwhich it is designed or find another game, it's that simple. either way I dont care. I dont know if this change is good, bad or indiffernet, it's too soon to tell and i'm willing to give HiTech ample time to sort out the bugs. I'm sure Hitech will welcome any suggestions or constructive critisism that the community may have but the attitude that some of you seem to have that some how paying $15 a month gives you some sort of right to tell Hitech how to run his business, the old "do it my way or i'm taking my toys and going home" routine takes some audacaciouse set of Kahoonas nor did I see any thing that remotely resembled mandating that HiTech confer with its membership or certain players within before any changes are implemented when I signed up for my membership. If it were me, ide tell you to go to hell and take your $15 with you and dont let the door hit you on the butt on the way out. Like I said if you have something constructive to say thats great but if all your going to do is ***** and complain than i sugget you shut your pie hole and/or leave. And no i dont beleive in political correctness so if I hurt your feelings or offended you, TOUGH.

erm.........have i just found Hitechs shades account?????

Im not going to be judgemental about the changes just yet, im prepared to give them a chance but there is 1 thing i DONT agree with;

Why take away the choice of the old MA?

you could have left it and added the new arenas.

but i KNOW why.

Because the "patronage" (similiar to patronise huh?)  wouldnt have gone to the arenas and humble pie aint so tasty huh?

At least give the "patronage" the choice.

why fix something that aint broke?

[KAntti]

Originally posted by Lusche
If you are  a kind of purist who just lives for the pure aerial fight, if you like prearranged extended 1v1 or 2v2 fights, then it´s great. But many players just love the big "epic" (ok, now I´m exaggerating a bit) battles for bases, combined GV/fighter buff actions with much more participants.

I´m fond of a good furball or a hard fought duel from time to time, but it´s getting boring very fast for me.

Also AvA numbers dropped of considerably after a short time, I think that may be one reason for this...

Reason why AvA died "very" quiqly is that it did not offer much to the enthusiastic participants. The first yells of "Yeii! We get to fight Spits and Hurris with 109 E´s and 110 4´s" died very quickly because there was nothing after that. We didn't have maps nor the planes to actually represent the historical equivalent plane sets in historically "accurate" maps, other than the BOB. Like I stated before, this is a dead end. Nothing to improve on or new to offer to the playing community will kill the game.

The reason for MA being so great in participant numbers is -IT'S EASY-. This is perfectly alright, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG IN ENJOYING A HOBBY. What went off course with MA was the -easy factor- sucking in new players who never found out how to fly a plane or figured out that there even was something else to the game than MA and gave up as soon as the clock said "two weeks".

Now I love a good field capture mission, but I will not tolerate people who will feed the undertrained neewbs to cannons and gather the glory following in.

[Raider179]

Just logged in to give it another go. Late war arena, Only 25 or so knits. The only red dar was 2 sectors from our front line. The Bish and Rooks were fighting each other and basically ignoring us.  Please just give us the MA back and an Early and Mid-war Arena...

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Raider179
Just logged in to give it another go. Late war arena, Only 25 or so knits. The only red dar was 2 sectors from our front line. The Bish and Rooks were fighting each other and basically ignoring us.  Please just give us the MA back and an Early and Mid-war Arena...

Oh, we just had a server reset. We had lots more ppl before that.

[Jaccpot]

Originally posted by lefty2
HiTech management your last response to this thread was yesterday afternoon, and was a limited response at that. Are the issues razed here not important to you?

Squad members and friends are leaving the game, this is very disappointing to me. Do you care? How would I know, if you did or did not care. Think about it. A bulletin board is used to communicate.

I don't know what you are doing or why. The statement as to why seem to me, to be vague and undefined. My monthly subscription to you is well defined. I believe that monthly loyalty entitles me to at least a statement as to the direction Aces High is being taken and some definition of the future. (what is going on and what are you doing? the why would be nice to ) Perhaps a news letter would do.

Most important, I firmly believe the owners and management at Hitech Creations inc, has miscalculated and blundered stupendously! I ask, have you ever had a service that you pay for change overnight with out notice? This is a game service that I pay for, not a game show full of surprises. "What we have here is a failure to communicate" The question is will this arrogance continue? Is it that the community (subscribers) knows nothing or is it just "its good to be the king"?

Hitech I call on you, you owe the community and or subscribers at large a heartfelt and sincere apology. The changes you have made have caused a great deal of confusion, discontent and all around unhappiness. The reason I call for this apology is because it could have all been avoided if you had simply brought this matter up early and dealt with it before hand, not to mention that it appears you were ill prepared to make the changes  you did.

Check your history, failure to interact with your customers in an effective fashion almost always leads to disaster!

As for the changes them selves time will tell. Some good ideas I'm sure, however I have seen some better ideas posted on the message boards. Would it be taken against me, if I were to use that word arrogance, again. If you are indeed planning expansion the failure to source the most valuable commodity ideas would be a tremendous loss. There are most definitely good ideas here on this board although they need development.

On that note of expansion, that would be more satisfied, happy subscribers rather than less subscribers that were disgruntled and unhappy. Given this episode you might want to consider a public relations consultant, if so I am available. But remember, more happy subscribers is the key to expansion and success.

sincerely
Lefty

Best Said Lefty. Couldn't have said it better.

[ROC]

ppssstt  there is more than This thread for information.  Check "Announcements"
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 Host changes

We made the following host changes today to address some of the issues that have come up so far.

Added a dot command to find other players online. The command is ".f playerID" typed into your text buffer with playerID being the ID of the person you are looking for.

Added a dot command to send a page to another player in a different arena. The command is ".p playerID message text" with playerID being the ID of the person you want to page and message text being the message you want to send.

Your squad text channel now works across all arenas that your squad is established. (Will work across all Main Arenas, perhaps other arenas as well)

A player can now belong to a separate country for each type of main arena. Country change times are also independent between main arena types.

Fixed issues in the ENY side balancing system that was disabling field guns and could disable all planes if sides became too unbalanced.

Some early planes are no longer retired from service in the mid and late arenas.

Hangar hardness in the early war arena is 75% of the mid and late war arenas.

A new main arena of the same type will be added to the arena list when an arena becomes 90% full.

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Pyro

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Dunno, looks to me like they are paying pretty close attention, and modifying things as they fine tune Real Time over Concept.  

Continue ranting, didn't mean to interrupt

[Jaccpot]

Sounds like the whinning is paying off. SWEET

[Spatula]

Originally posted by Bear69
that would also be a good idea, but you can CLOSE arena's during certain times of the day when numbers are low.  Keep 2 of the 4 closed during off peak hours and just have an early and late war.

Yup, this is my biggest and only real problem with the set up. I have suggested this in a previous post. Only hope people are listening. When i was on last night (early morning US time) there was stuff all people on and it WAS very hard to find nearly anyone. And when you did you normally had 3 or 4 other friendlies see the dar bars and come hoarding in, then it turned into a 1v1 to a 4v1 and the 1 then logs off thens theres nothing. Repeat.
Nearly everyone on line at that time shared the same sentiments on chnl 200 and were getting VERY frustrated! A lot of quit talk...

Thanks HTC for closing one of the late war arenas - that was MUCH MUCH needed, but the best possible outcome would be perhaps during certain times only periods shutdown mid-war arena (there were 4 people in it) and make those planes avail as perks in the EW and free in the LW and put the perks up on things in the LW maybe?? maybe think about perking la7s spit16s ponys etc but at low low prices to make the mid-war machines more competitive??

[Domin]

Originally posted by ROC
ppssstt  there is more than This thread for information.  Check "Announcements"
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 Host changes

We made the following host changes today to address some of the issues that have come up so far.

Added a dot command to find other players online. The command is ".f playerID" typed into your text buffer with playerID being the ID of the person you are looking for.

Added a dot command to send a page to another player in a different arena. The command is ".p playerID message text" with playerID being the ID of the person you want to page and message text being the message you want to send.

Your squad text channel now works across all arenas that your squad is established. (Will work across all Main Arenas, perhaps other arenas as well)

A player can now belong to a separate country for each type of main arena. Country change times are also independent between main arena types.

Fixed issues in the ENY side balancing system that was disabling field guns and could disable all planes if sides became too unbalanced.

Some early planes are no longer retired from service in the mid and late arenas.

Hangar hardness in the early war arena is 75% of the mid and late war arenas.

A new main arena of the same type will be added to the arena list when an arena becomes 90% full.

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Pyro

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Dunno, looks to me like they are paying pretty close attention, and modifying things as they fine tune Real Time over Concept.  

Continue ranting, didn't mean to interrupt

I'm happy now, thanks htc

[Spatula]

Originally posted by lazs2
lusche... I am still not getting it...
the latter... the players should be able to fix.   simply all go to the same arena...

Just how do you suggest organising that?? with people coming and going from arenas, and its seems at the moment most want to do the early war slow turn fight furball thing. And even if you could organise it, not everyone would want to. You basically cant consolidate the low numbers into one arena without shutting the other two. Simple as that.

[hubsonfire]

Sudz, HiTech, and their netgimp all on at the same time, responding to concerns and addressing issues within the new setup. I like that.

[Edbert1]

Originally posted by Hammy
why fix something that aint broke?

Because it WAS broke, has been since attendance reached over 350-400 players.

and...not directed at you Hammy...

For all those naysayers who think this was rushed into place without much thought...and no testing (which is occuring rioght now while you pi$$ and moan)...you have no idea how HTC does their job...or in fact who Dale and Doug are...if you actually beleive such drivel.

For all those who want the old MA back...it is still there...the late war arena has nearly every ride enabled...if ENY is a problem it is due to the players not the game designers...sure it has a cap, but that is not a factor since it is less popular...I don't think it has ever been full since the change...what you miss is in fact ganging with your 30+ squaddies...and milkrunning undefended (or at least underdefended) bases in uber-rides...because those things are all that has really been reduced.

[Spatula]

How about this for a suggestion:

Have 2 Main Arenas. Early War, and a Late War. Difference is that there are no plane limitations in either arena. Use the existing perk system to balance the arenas. But this time use the perk system with some nads for a change. In the EW you enable 1939 - 1942 aircraft, and in the LW you enable ALL aircraft. In the EW for each plane introduced after 1940 are perked and progressively get more expensive the later they were introduced. Do the same thing in the LW arena but start at 1942 etc.

My point is have two arenas, one which allows early to mid planes, but all mid planes cost. The other you allow mid to late and all late planes cost.

What do you think?

[The Fugitive]

Originally posted by Jaccpot
Sounds like the whinning is paying off. SWEET

Originally posted by Domin
I'm happy now, thanks htc  

If you guys had read the original post by Pyro.... 1000 posts ago... instead of spending all your time here crying you would have seen that they were working on this stuff and trying to get it implemented ASAP. Thats why so many people are saying "give it a chance" because HTC is very good at updates and fixes. They know they won't get it right the first time without any bugs.... heck Skuzzy's STILL tripping over the power cord !

Give it a few weeks, and you'll see think start to settle down.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Domin
You can the late war arena is just like main (FULL planeset) except for the cap limit now. Only thing is it will be hard to get into during prime time.

BTW, arenas are closed right now...

Tried last night
109F was disabled