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« Reply #435 on: September 16, 2006, 05:08:53 PM »
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How is the 'other side' affected?  LW is still the same as the MA was.  So it's not 500 people.  There is nothing stopping you from doing exactly what you like to do.

In fact, there is nothing in the other arenas from stopping you doing it as well other then the late war high speed cannon beasts aren't there.

So again, what was lost?  The potential for 500 people in an arena.  That's it.  And last I saw Pyro said they'd adjust the arena caps as needed once things settled.

So what was lost?

Now there is more choice and a better opportunity for all the planes to get used.  What is wrong with that?

And don't tell me that you could do that in the old MA.  Taking a Spit 1 up against 16s, N1Ks and LA7s is NOT the same as taking it up against 109Es, Zekes etc.


Note my earlier post.  The ENY restritions are more pronounced now, with the smaller limits.  This means many planes are not available for quite a large peroid of the day.  Many of those are planes you can ony fly in the Late Arena so you can't go somewhere else to satisfy your desire to fly a certain plane or mission.  Fact is, the ENY fluctuates so much at times you seem to spend more time in the hangar trying to ifind out what you can take up.  You get up in a high ENY plane, tell everyone anything under 20 is not available, and someone says it just dropped to 6, and your preferred ride is now availble again.  That is, until you finish your early model mission, then ENY is back up to 26, and you're toast again.  All day long to day that's been happening.
So, the LW is NOT quite the same asl the old MA.  It's worse, but could be better if a few things were fixed.
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« Reply #436 on: September 16, 2006, 05:10:22 PM »
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...And don't tell me that you could do that in the old MA.  Taking a Spit 1 up against 16s, N1Ks and LA7s is NOT the same as taking it up against 109Es, Zekes etc...


You are right, it was better ;)

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« Reply #437 on: September 16, 2006, 05:41:35 PM »
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Majority of the Players were in the Early arena first day..I believe this was coincidental due to it was put in the MA slot on the login Screen.. And face it some of us  just really aren't that bright! :(  Today since the New addition of old planes in Late War arena it was the  Majority.  :)

    With the initial change I was ready to Play my membership out and let it go, untill today when I seen the Late war is Identical to The MA..Call it whatever you will Late war, MA, Dogpile whatever..Thanks HTC for listening to your Customers..If the old WWII buffs (The guys who know every plane and year yada yada yada) Let them have their Arena i'm Sure it will attract old and new.. :) I still dont see the Need for 2 Late War arenas....but....
It seems to be a Helluva Place to Milkrun and Pad your RANK!!!  I could probably ramble on and Lament about more, except its getting late and there are not Enough in any one Arena to have fun with so I'll just go to bed....Usually I would be flying, But late nights SUCK now! Rooks and the 327th.........


Please do not pick on the EWA just because you like to fly the Lgay7's. There is a reason why EWA shares popularity with the LWA and that is: It's fun and theres skill involved! You can actually win a fight if you have the skill: there will be no Lgay-7's or peeee 51's or tiffies haunting you after you've slaughtered 4 gang banging poor flyin 109F's with a C202, and that is the point of the arena.  Some want opposite from this, but then late war riders usually do not care for cut down performance as the balanced fight will need and most definately brings out skill as well.

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« Reply #438 on: September 16, 2006, 05:53:20 PM »
KAntti, Have....

You're my squadmates, how come you like the Early War Arena that much better than the setups that were being offered in the AvA?

Cheers, I hope you'll continue to be my squadmates despite the arena we'll fly in. :)
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« Reply #439 on: September 16, 2006, 05:56:38 PM »
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KAntti, Have....

You're my squadmates, how come you like the Early War Arena that much better than the setups that were being offered in the AvA?

Cheers, I hope you'll continue to be my squadmates despite the arena we'll fly in. :)


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« Reply #440 on: September 16, 2006, 06:06:25 PM »
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You mean 3 arenas is not enough of a choice for you?


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With the full plane set in LW... I have no complaints....
We do need a higher cap... when the crowds showup 250 is still too low.

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« Reply #441 on: September 16, 2006, 06:08:35 PM »
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I think the addition of a GV arena is a good one, since we no longer have our beloved tanktown map(s).  And I KNOW TT was popular!  I also think the GV arena maps would/could be some of the neatest maps we'd have.  Current options for GVers, since the change, to have a good big ol' brawl is very limited.  It would also get us outta the pure-flyboys' hairs!
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« Reply #442 on: September 16, 2006, 06:11:58 PM »
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Soup,

Why did you fly FR back in the AW days, in particular in the AOL days.  I remember seeing you in there all the time when there were 20-30 tops on a good day while the RR arena was full.

 


I always flew FR... from day one.... before AOL.

I am not sure what needs to be done to fix a "problem" that is due to the fundamental design of the game.

Some of the same things that are cited for this change were cited for the ENY decision.  

But as long as arena resets are the goal...  landgrab, vultching, etc. will continue.

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« Reply #443 on: September 16, 2006, 06:17:07 PM »
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4500 you don't really make any sense to me...  you say that all you want is 1 v1?  And... that you liked the old MA?   that is silly.  there were no 1 v 1

You say that the EW isn't 1 v 1 (of course not) so you don't like it because it is a bunch of planes all fighting each other?  

you got jumped by my f4f and a spit and couldn't fight or get away (what were you in a jeep?)???  that is so much worse than the Old MA?  the old MA you were lucky if you didn't have 6 planes diving on you while you took off or landed.

most of the time I have seen there was room in the LW for more people.. why not just go there.

You have told us what you don't like..   lots of planes fighting each other...

How bout you tell us what you liked about the old MA?  and... why you can't still do it?

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Ah.. Lazs.. you are confusing me!

I don't have a problem with the EW, MW or LW.  As long as LW has the full plane set and ALL arenas have a high cap (600 or so).  Then let folks play where they like.

The point I was trying to make was... those folks in favor of the change and dismantling of a full plane set in LW point to better fights in EW.
The fights in EW look just the same to me except no one was hauling any eggs.  I saw as many HO's, folks jumping in on existing fights, etc.

Actually... EW reminded me of FT in the old MA.  ( I wonder why that is?)

So bottomline.. if they up the caps on the three arenas, full planeset in the LW... I've no beef.

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« Reply #444 on: September 16, 2006, 06:34:05 PM »
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How is the 'other side' affected?  LW is still the same as the MA was.  So it's not 500 people.  There is nothing stopping you from doing exactly what you like to do.

In fact, there is nothing in the other arenas from stopping you doing it as well other then the late war high speed cannon beasts aren't there.

So again, what was lost?  The potential for 500 people in an arena.  That's it.  And last I saw Pyro said they'd adjust the arena caps as needed once things settled.

So what was lost?

Now there is more choice and a better opportunity for all the planes to get used.  What is wrong with that?

And don't tell me that you could do that in the old MA.  Taking a Spit 1 up against 16s, N1Ks and LA7s is NOT the same as taking it up against 109Es, Zekes etc.

I have made it clear that I understand HTC will make the adjustments needed. So therefore the other side is only temporarily effected.

   Its obvious that we are already headed to a more populated MA. Last night proved my prediction that LW MA will be the old AH2 we once knew.

 Last night for example.LW1 was maxed..LW2 kicked in as backup. So i am confident that all will be happy after HTC raises the CAP in LW1 to around 400. But when we arrive at so said happiness, let's re-examine what has actually changed.

   All will see that the LW Arena will so much represent the old MA (plane set and population) that HTC created a whole lota watermelon for nothing.  This coulda been done so much more discretely that is it laughable.
And damn it! This IS my last post.
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« Reply #445 on: September 16, 2006, 06:51:56 PM »
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I have made it clear that I understand HTC will make the adjustments needed. So therefore the other side is only temporarily effected.

   Its obvious that we are already headed to a more populated MA. Last night proved my prediction that LW MA will be the old AH2 we once knew.

 Last night for example.LW1 was maxed..LW2 kicked in as backup. So i am confident that all will be happy after HTC raises the CAP in LW1 to around 400. But when we arrive at so said happiness, let's re-examine what has actually changed.

   All will see that the LW Arena will so much represent the old MA (plane set and population) that HTC created a whole lota watermelon for nothing.  This coulda been done so much more discretely that is it laughable.
And damn it! This IS my last post.
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« Reply #446 on: September 16, 2006, 07:00:51 PM »
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You're just creatures of habit. You have no idea which setup is better, or worse, because you only know one. HT could call the AvA the Main Arena, and you guys would flock to it. That doesn't mean it's better.


Pretty broad statement....

Speaking for myself I've played in every arena save the MidWar.  (too sparsely populated)  

I like the AvA when it has the rolling planeset ETO.  PTO planeset is boring to me.

EW is ok... but the "Elitist" attitude of some of the folks flying there is a bit over the top.  

But this isn't my first rodeo... if there is one thing I am sure of, I don't need others telling me what I should and shouldn't like.

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« Reply #447 on: September 16, 2006, 07:03:23 PM »
Pyro I think the changes are great except for one thing. Your setup is when one arena is caped a 2nd arena opens. This is a problem for our squad. We have 4 divisions with a total of over 70 members. Our problem is on squad nights we are haveing members that cant get in the arena we are in. That is disapointing to our squad members and we dont want to split them up into other arenas. There is a way to fix this I think. If you made it so that when numbers get high in one arena but the other main arenas or any arena numbers are low allow the cap to raise or lower itself to make up for memebers that want to be in that arena so they can get in. Then when that arena is at its max cap allowed or another arena needs the slots allow the 2nd arena to open. Then it would be a adjustable system. Do you see where im going with this? Is this possible to do and will it help or hurt things?
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« Reply #448 on: September 16, 2006, 08:19:19 PM »
Overall I like these changes, however, two big problems.  First is the squad thing, I know that being worked on. Second, imbalance of players in arena toward one or two countries.  It is a flaw, and, it will be abused.  We all look for an advantage.  My thought is change the way eny works.  Instead of limiting available aircraft, let them all fly.  Perk everything and when eny kicks in, then, the perk costs kick in.

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« Reply #449 on: September 16, 2006, 08:27:12 PM »
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Pretty broad statement....

Speaking for myself I've played in every arena save the MidWar.  (too sparsely populated)  

I like the AvA when it has the rolling planeset ETO.  PTO planeset is boring to me.

EW is ok... but the "Elitist" attitude of some of the folks flying there is a bit over the top.  

But this isn't my first rodeo... if there is one thing I am sure of, I don't need others telling me what I should and shouldn't like.


 I wasn't addressing you specifically, and that was pretty clear. However, it's an accurate statement, as evidenced by the panicked shrieking and nailbiting before anyone had spent more than an hour with the new setup.

Now, if you'd care to point out my elitist attitude, and where I tell you what you should and should not like...
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