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Offline straffo

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« Reply #495 on: September 17, 2006, 03:09:32 PM »
btw F4U4 is free in mid war arena ... eekkk

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« Reply #496 on: September 17, 2006, 03:38:18 PM »
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There's nothing you can do that will make everyone happy, running your business with that (trying to make everyone happy) as the top priority is a disaster. Your top priority should be the long-term health of the game.


So wrong - Based on the assumption that HTC is earning a living from this game of course his priority should be his customers/subscribers. No customers = no $ and no food on the table.

I understand u cant please all of the people all the time, but there should be a compromise that can be reached.

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« Reply #497 on: September 17, 2006, 04:01:58 PM »
Greetings,

  Ah, yes, you can also go broke trying to please everyone - and probly quicker.  Been down that road, tried it and stopped before it got to expensive.  Went back to what I knew made sense.  Lots of people think they know how to run your business.  Problem is, it ain't their money.

  AH has been doing this a while.  From the looks, they have been fairly successful and will continue to be so.

  Yes, some people will leave, some won't, more will appear.  Know your target audience and appeal to them - especially the next set of customers.  Keeping your base while expanding to new customers, that is the trick.  Again, based on history, looks like AH knows what they are doing.

  From the numbers, looks to me like more people are playing at night (US) than since I restarted playing.  Congrats AH!

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« Reply #498 on: September 17, 2006, 04:16:00 PM »
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Why scrub it or add it to the EWA?  It's by far the best of the three arenas and the low numbers make for some excellent 1v1 fights that you can't find in any of the other two arenas.


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I think its culture shock AKAK.  When numbers are low one has to extend a bit of respect to enemy players if they wish to find fights.  (vulch and pick too often, and they will go elsewhere to fight).  I was in Mid about 2 hours.  I accumulated 23 kills.  Helps to not be a jerk if you want opponents to come back and try again.

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« Reply #499 on: September 17, 2006, 04:25:55 PM »
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I understand u cant please all of the people all the time, but there should be a compromise that can be reached.


This is the compromise.  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #500 on: September 17, 2006, 04:31:49 PM »
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That's what I saw... what did you see?


I saw you in a 6 on 1 flying for the Rooks, which were the high-numbers country at that time. Also, at the times I saw you and MrDick in the EWA, the LW arenas were not full, with LW1 at 230, and LW2 at 35 or 40.

Given that, I'm not sure that your comments on gameplay being unchanged are relevant or not. Sure, you're still doing that kind of thing, and so are others, but I didn't see the same level of hangar dropping and horde missions that I was never able to avoid in the old MA. I've had a lot more fun in a few hours in the new setup than I had in months in game, and so I consider that to be an improvement.


5tuart- the game is the only product HT offers. It is the only thing that attracts customers. The customers may make him money, but that doesn't mean that they will stay on for years, no matter how hard he works at pleasing only them. However, by focusing on making the game a better product, he will always have new customers, even if he loses a few along the way.

As an example, when AH2 went live, and people realized they'd need to upgrade computers and have better hardware than before, numbers dropped dramatically. There was a great deal of panic then, as people prophecied the immediate death of HTC.

A few years later, here we are still playing the game, with more players than ever before, and more on the way. HT could have worked very hard to maintain that old core of AH1 customers, and he would probably still have been unable to keep them all interested, and would never have had the opportunity for the kind of growth that I've witnessed in that time.

That compromise you mention, IMO, is making the game (the product that brought those customers in the first place) better and better.
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« Reply #501 on: September 17, 2006, 04:37:39 PM »
No this has been forced upon the players - or so it seems.

Anyway im done posting now I think I made my point.

GL everyone :)

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« Reply #502 on: September 17, 2006, 04:39:29 PM »
The most logical solution to 99.9% of all the whines resulting from the change is:

1. MA (LW)  arena with no cap, unchanged from original MA

2. New arenas ( EW, MW) with 250 player cap.....duplicates after 90%


How could anyone cry about that setup?

Even Lazs couldn't find a bad thing about it.

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« Reply #503 on: September 17, 2006, 04:50:15 PM »
My thoughts at this time? The Jury is still out and the clock is running. I've had some great fights recently and on the flip side I was grounded by ENY (which has now been fixed so I am told).

I believe if we keep the gripes to ourselves and introduce truely productive ideas on improvement, we can help HTC to make our community better. Some will succeed in working hard and helping, others will bail when the going gets tough. It's a choice each of the folks in our community can freely make and we should not throw rocks at anyone no matter what their choice is.

Well enough typing for now....


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« Reply #504 on: September 17, 2006, 04:54:17 PM »
Nobody's actually read anything but the last page, have they?
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« Reply #505 on: September 17, 2006, 04:55:48 PM »
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Nobody's actually read anything but the last page, have they?


I've read every post in both threads.

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« Reply #506 on: September 17, 2006, 05:00:02 PM »
Anyone have a better idea than mine?

1. leave the original MA exactly the way it was, but no cap

2. have the EW and MW just as they are now, except add duplicate arenas after 90% of 250 cap.


Even Lazs should approve.

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« Reply #507 on: September 17, 2006, 05:06:17 PM »
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Anyone have a better idea than mine?

1. leave the original MA exactly the way it was, but no cap

2. have the EW and MW just as they are now, except add duplicate arenas after 90% of 250 cap.


Even Lazs should approve.


Well Bye Bye, the only thing I would say against this argument is that nobody get punished/coerced or locked out of arenas and that's a major problem for me.

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« Reply #508 on: September 17, 2006, 05:07:50 PM »
new system is taking man power away and turning the arenas into non fluid fighter fests, though im sure this is fine with most i for one am sick of fighting over A43 in the only arena where i can fly every plane, late-war should have an expanded # allowable, nice try with the new format but its killing the war aspect of the game...
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« Reply #509 on: September 17, 2006, 05:11:54 PM »
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Well Bye Bye, the only thing I would say against this argument is that nobody get punished/coerced or locked out of arenas and that's a major problem for me.

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