Author Topic: Citation Runway overrun.... (Read 1757 times)

LePaul · « **on:** September 14, 2006, 05:15:54 PM »

RAIDER14 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 14, 2006, 06:11:48 PM »

The Footage Golfer tried to hide:D

FUNKED1 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 14, 2006, 06:16:37 PM »

That's looks REALLY expensive.

Golfer · « **Reply #3 on:** September 14, 2006, 07:02:41 PM »

couple weeks late on this one.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=186583

I don't fly CJs. My airplanes have TRs and lots more thrust. Shouldn't you be jumpseating, anyway?

SFRT - Frenchy · « **Reply #4 on:** September 14, 2006, 08:51:04 PM »

Welcome to Wallmart, how may I help you?

nirvana · « **Reply #5 on:** September 14, 2006, 08:54:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Golfer
I don't fly CJs. My airplanes have TRs and lots more thrust. Shouldn't you be jumpseating, anyway?

HAHAHAHA zing!

Dinger · « **Reply #6 on:** September 15, 2006, 02:00:34 AM »

That's a couple years back.

Pilot talks to Atlantic City gets clearance to land. Instead lands on this strip -- which is shorter than stopping distance and marked on charts as not for jet use. Simple mistake? Could be, but he somehow had the plates open to the right airfield. Anyway, runway is way to short, he shoots it with a tailwind and touches down halfway. They bail out and he doesn't bother to shutdown.

If you search the web, you can find pictures of the same pilot (the fat guy) at the controls of his citation butt-nekkid. He (Danish, like the the company (weber scientific?) that owns the jet) also has a reputation for buzzing schoolkids who bother his house with a helicopter.

Company's replacement for OY-JET is OY-WET

Reynolds · « **Reply #7 on:** September 15, 2006, 03:06:31 AM »

That is just retarded. Not the overshoot, accidents happen, but leaving the engines on. Shut-down would be my big priority.

Golfer · « **Reply #8 on:** September 15, 2006, 09:06:58 AM »

Like hell it would. You'd be so happy to be alive and ecstatic you're still breathing that you'd want to get out of dodge lickity split.

There are 4 ways what happened wouldn't have happened.

1.) Pull the power levers to cutoff
2.) Ignition Switches off
3.) Push the fire lights
4.) Don't wind up in a river where this could happen.

None of those are higher on my list than "get out of airplane before it sinks with me inside of it" especially if the engines had stopped making noise. You wouldn't expect them to relight but on one hand that does show the reliability of todays turbine engines.

rabbidrabbit · « **Reply #9 on:** September 15, 2006, 09:38:49 AM »

I have a question..

As far as aviation is concerned is there an arguement against running turbines on everything except cost?

Reynolds · « **Reply #10 on:** September 15, 2006, 02:53:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Golfer
Like hell it would. You'd be so happy to be alive and ecstatic you're still breathing that you'd want to get out of dodge lickity split.

There are 4 ways what happened wouldn't have happened.

1.) Pull the power levers to cutoff
2.) Ignition Switches off
3.) Push the fire lights
4.) Don't wind up in a river where this could happen.

None of those are higher on my list than "get out of airplane before it sinks with me inside of it" especially if the engines had stopped making noise. You wouldn't expect them to relight but on one hand that does show the reliability of todays turbine engines.

UM, no. Once that door is open, my escape is secure, (Or so I like to beleive) and I do NOT want to get into water near running turbines. I would kill the engines, (Not the right way, id just kill the fuel, kill it fast, no matter how much damage it did) and then run my arse outa there.

Golfer · « **Reply #11 on:** September 15, 2006, 02:59:16 PM »

Reynolds I think you're missing one thing. The engines were snuffed out and not running when the airplane went into river. Standing water will do this. The problem lied with the engines not placed into cutoff with the ignitions and battery on. The combination of Fuel+spark=combustion. This got the engine turning after the fact and you of course have seen the results.

If the engines wern't making noise anymore I'd have assumed they were safe too. They didn't jump out of the airplane with the motors screaming...it came on by itself.

Reynolds · « **Reply #12 on:** September 15, 2006, 03:05:10 PM »

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Originally posted by Golfer
Reynolds I think you're missing one thing. The engines were snuffed out and not running when the airplane went into river. Standing water will do this. The problem lied with the engines not placed into cutoff with the ignitions and battery on. The combination of Fuel+spark=combustion. This got the engine turning after the fact and you of course have seen the results.

If the engines wern't making noise anymore I'd have assumed they were safe too. They didn't jump out of the airplane with the motors screaming...it came on by itself.

Yes, I noticed that, but WHY werent the engines in the cutoff?

Golfer · « **Reply #13 on:** September 15, 2006, 03:10:03 PM »

Well given that one was in cutoff and the other was bent...

I'd say that the crash damaged something so it wouldn't go to cutoff or the J hook wasn't pulled all the way up in the rush to get the hell out of dodge and the power lever wouldn't go to I/CO. If he put enough force into it to bend the power lever you'd think it was as good as it will get.

eskimo2 · « **Reply #14 on:** September 15, 2006, 03:24:42 PM »

Good plane.

Bad pilot.