Author Topic: What new planes&vehicules for early war arena ? (Read 1422 times)

Noir · « **on:** September 14, 2006, 05:58:55 PM »

All is in the title, what planes and vehs would you guys see in the early arena ?

Think of roles we miss like a TRUE stuka for gv hunting (we got no big caliber planes in there yet), we need also a tank that can compete with the T34....and more

And BTW why the TBM-3 is in there, it saw action in 1942 right ?

E25280 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 14, 2006, 07:50:07 PM »

Since the T-34 is there, I am assuming '39-'41 and possibly '42 vehicles would be in the early war. Thus, a representative sample:

Brit: Matilda II and III (armored, slow) and Crusader (less armor, faster).
Both with 2 lbr and 3inch howitzer variants.
French: Hotchkiss (?) 35 and/or 39 (37mm guns)
German: Pzkw38(t) or PzkwIII(E) (both w/ 37mm guns), PzkwIV(D) (low velocity 75mm howitzer)
Russia: T-26, BT-7 (very fast) (both with 45mm guns)
KV-1 (perked)
If '42 included, M-4 Sherman, M-3 Stuart and PzkwIII(J) (50mm gun).

If HTC can/will code vehicles with bow mounted main armaments:
US: M-3 Lee/Grant, Maybe a halftrack with a 75mm gun.
French Char B1-bis (perked for rarity)
British: Churchill MK1 (possibly perked due to heavy armor?)
German: StGIII(B).

To replace or suppliment the M-3, we should have a German SPW 251 halftrack (honestly can't remember the correct name for these -- I always called them "spitwads"), and a British Bren Carrier with a capacity of 5 troops.

Mowaca · « **Reply #2 on:** September 14, 2006, 07:56:39 PM »

P-36
P-35
P-39
P-47D-5

CR-42
Macci 200

Defiant
Gladiator

Ki43
Nate

MiG3
Yak3

Saxman · « **Reply #3 on:** September 14, 2006, 08:06:10 PM »

F4U-1 should be moved to the early war. Entered combat 2/43. There's already birds in that arena that didn't see action until AFTER the Corsair arrived.

Stoney74 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 15, 2006, 12:18:34 AM »

Sax, it would probably have to be perked, don't you think. Geez the P-38G is--I never thought I'd see the day...

Saxman · « **Reply #5 on:** September 15, 2006, 12:33:09 AM »

So what? I'd pay it. Then I can have my Hog AND have more options than dying to the same guy over and over again, or dying to a horde.

CLW81Z · « **Reply #6 on:** September 15, 2006, 12:36:21 AM »

I want to see:
Brewster Buffalo
Halifax
He-111
Hs-129 (Late-war variants had a 75mm cannon!)
Il-4
LaGG-3
MIG-3
A5M
KI-43
B-25
Pe-2
I-16
Sundeland
SU-2
Whitley
P-39
PBY Catalina
Blenheim
Beaufighter
TBD Devastator

MOIL · « **Reply #7 on:** September 15, 2006, 02:27:28 AM »

Can I have my

and

now ?

P.S. I promise to be responsible with them

Noir · « **Reply #8 on:** September 15, 2006, 05:22:40 AM »

what are the guns on that wirbelwind ?

bkbandit · « **Reply #9 on:** September 15, 2006, 06:12:09 AM »

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Originally posted by Saxman
F4U-1 should be moved to the early war. Entered combat 2/43. There's already birds in that arena that didn't see action until AFTER the Corsair arrived.

Im reading the Wikipedia encyclopedia and it says here that f4u was delivered to the navy in 1942, 1943 f6f-3 was around too. the early arena might have to add some blue to the plane set.

P40 had more variants, the n model was the last and best variant and it was flying in 43.

All u guys have everything else i could have though of. Did anybody put down the panther?? i noe that has been one people have been asking for.

E25280 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 15, 2006, 06:29:48 AM »

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Originally posted by Noir
what are the guns on that wirbelwind ?

Quad 20mm.

More specifically, 2cm Flakvierling 38.

Before the question is asked, the Ostwind has a 3.7 cm FlaK 43. Bigger range, more punch per shell, but slower rate of fire than the quad mount (obviously).

E25280 · « **Reply #11 on:** September 15, 2006, 06:39:59 AM »

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Originally posted by bkbandit
All u guys have everything else i could have though of. Did anybody put down the panther?? i noe that has been one people have been asking for.

Panther was introduced in 1943, I would assume it to be a mid-war, not early-war vehicle. Besides, they are going for "balance" in their set-ups. You might as well add the Tiger and PzkwIV(H) to the early war if you want a Panther.

Heck, for simplicity sake and as a stopgap, I would accept adding the Panzer H as a perked vehicle in the Early War arena, just to add a little variety.

Stoney74 · « **Reply #12 on:** September 15, 2006, 08:25:23 AM »

Looked at HiTech's break down of the eras. Don't think we'll see a Hog in the early war... Looks like the cutoff is mid '42

Noir · « **Reply #13 on:** September 15, 2006, 07:19:29 PM »

If the break is mid war some plane models we have are border line on the calendar, like TBM-3 and maybe Ju88-A4 (Ju's earlier versions are faster if my memory is good)

Saxman · « **Reply #14 on:** September 15, 2006, 08:12:32 PM »

As I understand, Stoney, the FW-190A5 is in the early war arena as a Perk, and that was AUGUST 1943.