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Offline Halo

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« on: September 15, 2006, 10:26:21 PM »
Among the biggest surprises of the thread Sig vs. Glock was the number of people who prefer model 1911 pistols.  Tonight I finally fired one, a Kimber Classic Custom .45, and I was impressed.  

It was not at all like the old Air Force .45s with their hard trigger pulls.  Somehow even the Kimber recoil seems much more pleasant.  

Before with a .45 I always wound up getting tired and starting to flinch, but the smooth Kimber action and trigger made the 50-round box disappear all too quickly.  The ammo was Atlanta Arms & Ammo 45 ACP .230 grain TCJ.  

When I fire a rental gun, I always follow up with my own Ruger Security-Six .357/.38 revolver for comparison, usually just with .38s.  This time I was surprised that the Kimber .45 1911 outshot my .38 in comparable single action trigger pull.  Never thought that could happen.  

What got me interested in Kimber was several of the range guys carrying Kimber .45s as their personal weapons.  One told me he thought the Kimbers were better shooters because of the way the grip safety encouraged a better hold.  

The range guys continue the debate of Sig vs. Glock and add Kimber and Springfield to the equation.  

I particularly like the total single-action trigger pull of the Kimber 1911 version.  Some people like the DA/SA of Sigs, some like the uber safe total DA of Glocks, and some prefer the total SA of Kimbers.  Count me among the latter.

The 1911 safeties also seem logical and doable for me.  Traditional slide safety and grip safety.  In home defense use, I'd go that extra step and not put a shell in the chamber.  

But even with carry use like range personnel, I'll never get used to seeing loaded holstered semiautomatics with their hammer cocked, no matter what kind of safeties they have.  

So in my personal large caliber handgun recent firings, I score best and feel best using single action in my own Ruger Security-Six .357 Magnum revolver, the Kimber Classic Custom .45, and the Sig P229 .40.  I did not shoot as accurately with any of the totally double action Glocks:  the 21 .45 caliber, the 22 40-caliber, or the 31 357 Sig.

And what's puzzling, my own .38 revolver accuracy is erratic, sometimes good and sometimes mediocre.  I've usually fired the .38 after testing one of the pistols, so maybe that's a factor.  

Non 1911ers need not reply, but how about a quick roll call of you shooters who prefer 1911 models over all other handguns and which brand you recommend.
« Last Edit: September 15, 2006, 10:38:17 PM by Halo »
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« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2006, 10:33:53 PM »
I was content with my Glock 22 until I shot my friends Kimber Tactial Custom. Im sold on the 1911 now. Care to float me a loan?:D

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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2006, 11:06:10 PM »
Yeah, Kimbers are pricey.  One solution might be time shares like a vacation condo.  Naw, would take forever transferring everything dealer to dealer, and costs would soon be more than the gun.     :confused:
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2006, 11:28:24 PM »
After shooting a friends Caspian 1911, I decided to get a 1911 for myself. I just purchased a Dan Wesson Commander Bobtail 1911. I will shoot it for the first time tomorrow. I was very close to getting a Kimber, thanks to lazs and others recomendation. However, when I saw and handled the Bobtail, I knew it was the one for me. Of course I researched it and all sources praised the Dan Wessons (recently bought by CZ). I always thought 1911s were over-rated. I was wrong.

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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2006, 11:39:28 PM »
I prefer my 1911 to a revolver, which will probably not surprise lazs.
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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2006, 11:40:55 PM »
I have an HK USP 45, but enjoy shooting my buddy's Colt Goverment Model often.   I will be getting a Kimber eventually.   They are nice guns.  Fit and Finish are tough to beat, IMO, they exceed Les Baer for 1/2 the cost.
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2006, 12:06:53 AM »
Mine is a Springfield 1911A1 plain Jane, stock, no modifications and I like it just fine.

Easier to haul around than the Ruger .44 Mag I had years ago and much easier shooting than my Dads S&W Model 66 .357.
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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2006, 02:40:17 AM »
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2006, 04:08:54 AM »
I've never shot one but I always liked the design. It's definately one of the handguns I would own if I was to start shooting as a hobby.
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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2006, 04:24:52 AM »
Anyone shot a Springfield XD .45 yet?

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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2006, 06:02:16 AM »
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Anyone shot a Springfield XD .45 yet?



Not yet. Checked one out the other day at the shop and liked the feel of it very much.

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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2006, 08:04:52 AM »
<------- Major 1911 fan. The Kimber is probably the top of the line in "production" (Kimber is really a custom piece, their stuff really isn't production in the sense that S&W or Springfield is) guns. The Dan Wesson is a very nice weapon as well, they have several versions that are built with true top of the line upgrade parts. I've built a couple of nice homebuilt hot rods, but it has been a few years. My brother has a nice Para Ordnance P-14 45, it's a 1911 based weapon with 14 round capacity. Not for people with average or smaller hands, but a real nice sweet shooting high capacity 1911 45. Springfield builds some nice ones as well. You can buy a low end Springfield and afford to put some really nice pieces on it. And one final way of doing it, if you have access to a mill and some other shop equipment, is to buy an "85%" grip frame kit, and get the pieces you want to finish it. An "85%" kit never has a serial number and the BATFE never gets to know you because of it. They're not cheaper to build, but you fit it all yourself, and you pick your components.
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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2006, 08:08:48 AM »
One thing to be aware of. As I stated in the other thread, the 1911 is a true WAR weapon. It is designed to kill the enemy in large numbers. You need to realize that the 1911 single action requires that you confront any attacker with a cocked hammer and a VERY short throw 3.5# trigger. So long as you are fully familiar with and capable of the 1911 manual of arms, you'll be fine.
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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2006, 08:18:53 AM »


Haven't fired one yet but I plan on it. I've always been impressed with Taurus handguns. Their unlimited lifetime warranty can't be beaten either.
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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2006, 10:43:40 AM »
For a weak round that is easily reloaded.. the .45 is a good round and the Kimber is the best deal on the planet... maybe the taurus will be good who knows?

The 45 is a weak low rcoiling round for close range work and there is no better trigger than the 1911 and... out of the box... the Kimber is darn hard to beat.   They don't have any problems either....revolver like in accuracy and reliability.   I shoot mine often and like it a lot.

It will never replace my 44 mags as an all around gun or the 357 as a carry gun but the old 1911 is one sweet gun... it feels right in my large mitts and it works flawlessly with the slow, fat 45.  

It also has some heft and the workmanship on the newer guns like the Kimber is so fine that it imparts a feeling of pride of ownership that I just can't dredge up for the plastic  guns.

I know it is safe to carry cocked and locked but I don't...  I have seen too many that were holstered with the safety on and it wasn't on later.

I carry mine with one in the chamber and the hammer down.   I actualy don't like the big beavertail safeties and I like the old arched mainspring housing and the normal hammer.  

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