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« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2006, 08:51:32 PM »
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MrDick: Are you sure we havn't already done that?


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ok spell it
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Re: Re: HT should hire a sociologist
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2006, 08:58:47 PM »
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I guess you come by that name honestly.


Cut MrDick some slack. I think what he suggested is very reasonable. Hitech even suggested they may have done just that. Sociology is the study of group dynamics. It would have been (or was) very logical to consider those dynamics when designing the new arenas.

IMHO, it was not good. Experiments don't always work out. They especially missed the chapter on the importance of communications while in transitions.

HOWEVER, I don't doubt for one minute Hitech and his team are trying to improve the game. I just hope if it does not work as expected they will consider reversing themselves if necessary.

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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2006, 09:08:40 PM »
What I see at this point is a baseless attack/troll to begin the thread.  Please enlighten us with your scociology skill MrDick.  I think that , yes there is some discomfort anytime there is change, and taking a large group of people and splitting them amoung several areas, even on a volentary and non perminent bases, can cause some degree of angst.  However, I am also forced to remind myself that smaller, more memorable groups tend to form tighter, and more meaninful bonds.  

In a MA populated by 600-700 player at any given time, and a rotating base of over 2000+, you tend not to recognise many people.  I work in a building with thousands of people....and I know very few of them, and have little sense of belonging with all of the people in the buiding....noone is going to start chanting, "Big glass bulding 105 Rules....Big glass building 103 Sucks"....too many people....we just dont care.

In an arena with only a few hundred, we will move back towards what AH was a few years ago, and you will quickly start to recognise many of those around you, friendly and enemy.  Sure some people will float between the arenas, but a good portion will stick in one arena more than not.  This also will help make use of an otherwise wasted planeset.  Why fly an older model, if the newer is better in every way?  Now players who like older planes have a place with at least a little more parity.  So we have more sense of community, a better opportunity for those who like older planesets, and on top of all that, we will now have another valid reason to add some very cool early war planes.......why did we need a sociologist again?

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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2006, 09:17:55 PM »
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....In a MA populated by 600-700 player at any given time, and a rotating base of over 2000+, you tend not to recognise many people...


Respectfully, I disagree with that statement. The more crowded the arena, the more opportunities to find groups. Maybe I play too much, but I usually recognize 80% of the names I see. I know which groups I like to fly with (not a squaddie), and when its crowded I there are always several great groups out there. Big is better.

This small more meaningful theory is just nonsense. You always work in small groups when your fighting, but a large arena gives you more small groups to choose from.


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« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2006, 09:27:03 PM »
what is needed is an alcoholiciologist
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« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2006, 09:31:06 PM »
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what is needed is an acoholiciologist



What you need is a spellologist.



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« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2006, 09:34:22 PM »
whooa prove me wrong, I have been drinking all night and it looks good to me. even wrote it three times, or once, I thought the one in the middle looked good.

ignore the edit thing
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« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2006, 09:35:50 PM »
I thought dr lazs was the bk proctologist.

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« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2006, 09:59:07 PM »
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Cut MrDick some slack. I think what he suggested is very reasonable.  


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« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2006, 10:18:37 PM »
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I thought dr lazs was the bk proctologist.


He is. Lazs has many talents.

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« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2006, 12:23:54 AM »
Sociology is the science of excuses and cop-outs.

Get yerselves an anthropologist...  Much better suited to study such a strange community of online fighter sim jocks :p
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« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2006, 12:30:39 AM »
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This small more meaningful theory is just nonsense. You always work in small groups when your fighting, but a large arena gives you more small groups to choose from.

Kilo16


Respectfully, I disagree with that statement. Been at this a LOOONG time. Played in arenas with limits from 32 to 700. The "social experience" is much greater in a smaller arena than a larger one.

Analogy time...

In which would you expect to have a greater "social experience"....

At the Super Bowl with 100,000+ others...or at a Super Bowl party with 20 to 30 people?

For me, the "social experience" has been nice. I have fought with and against folks I never got to see in the larger MA. While I believe there are still plenty of bumps to be smoothed out (and I am confident they will be), I do like the social aspects of the new setup.
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« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2006, 12:31:21 AM »
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Sociology is the science of excuses and cop-outs.

Get yerselves an anthropologist...  Much better suited to study such a strange community of online fighter sim jocks :p


Who you callin' 'strange'???? :D
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« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2006, 12:40:50 AM »
The same people who formed those larger groups in the MA now form smaller groups in the other arenas. There's no less an opportunity to socialize and become acquainted with new peeps today than there was Tuesday. Everybody's still here, just in different rooms.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2006, 12:42:56 AM by hubsonfire »
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« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2006, 07:55:57 AM »
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He is. Lazs has many talents.
hub said that when lazs performed his outgoing physical examination prior to separation from the BKs that lazs was very tender and had good bedside manner.