Question for HTC regarding country change

[hubsonfire]

Would it be possible for the country changing function to ignore the timer if a player is trying to change to a country with lower, or even the lowest, numbers?

Last night, I changed countries after perhaps an hour. Within an hour, numbers had changed pretty dramatically. I can't remember the exact numbers, but the perk mult had gone from something like 1.6 to .5ish. I attempted to switch countries again, to the new lowest numbered country, and the popup said I had to wait another 260 minutes.

While I can understand that a short timer for all switches could really become a problem, do you have any interest in a setup allowing you to change countries to the side with lowest numbers, regardless of time elapsed since the previous switch? Is such a thing even possible within the game code? Is this something you've already considered?

Anyway, I thought I'd seen a similar idea tossed around in the past, but I believe it was suggest as a replacement for the ENY limits in the old MA.

Tx,
hub

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by hubsonfire
Would it be possible for the country changing function to ignore the timer if a player is trying to change to a country with lower, or even the lowest, numbers?

This could be a very useful thing.

- oldman

[Schatzi]

Im much more with this idea.....

[NHawk]

My personal opinion is a strong one....

Anyone changing countries should lose all perks. After all, you earned those perks with the help of your current country. That would slow, if not stop the country jumping in either direction and sides would eventually even out because of it.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by NHawk
My personal opinion is a strong one....

Anyone changing countries should lose all perks. After all, you earned those perks with the help of your current country. That would slow, if not stop the country jumping in either direction and sides would eventually even out because of it.

Strongly against it:

- I earned my perks on my own, flying High ENY planes. Perks a a reward fo my own actions.

- Most people wouldn´t change countries at all anymore. While there are many people totally ignoring their own score, throwing away all your perks is a thing I would say ony a few would ever consider. In my opinion that would me detrimental to game & community. People wouldn´t have the chance to wing up with friends from the other side from time to time. ANd it would certainly lead to are steady increase of quite narrowminded players who never flew for another chesspiece and tell such phrases as "rook/bish/nits always xxx" & "we NEVER do XXX". "Nationalism" would increase.

[lazs2]

This idea of being able to switch to the lowest numbered country is a great idea...

This would reward good gameplay and sportsmanship which is allways a good thing in my opinion.

It would also maybe get some of the slow witted "my chesspiece my life" guys to get out of their coma and get to know some of the community.

perks.... sheesh...  tell ya what... if HT says ok... you can have my 25,000 or whatever they are now and I will have more than I can use by the end of the week...

And it isn't because my "chesspiece" gave em to me.   I fight on the lowest numbered teams when I can anyway.   it is insulting to think that people believe that my, or anyone elses skill is due to the "help" of my MA countrymen who "help" me by killing the plane I worked down and low and slow and took the vator and rudder off while they blow his helpless plane to pieces with cannon.  

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

[NHawk]

Well from what I can tell, the days of loyalty and allegiance to a country at any cost must be long gone. The game aspect has completely taken over AH and the war aspect is greatly diminished.

[NHawk]

Originally posted by lazs2
......And it isn't because my "chesspiece" gave em to me.   I fight on the lowest numbered teams when I can anyway.   it is insulting to think that people believe that my, or anyone elses skill is due to the "help" of my MA countrymen who "help" me by killing the plane I worked down and low and slow and took the vator and rudder off while they blow his helpless plane to pieces with cannon.......

You contradict yourself. You fight on the lowest numbered team (hence higher perks) and then say the country didn't help with perks?

Nobody is questioning your skill or anyone elses. I'm just saying perks are a product assisted by the country overall.

[Eagler]

Originally posted by NHawk
Well from what I can tell, the days of loyalty and allegiance to a country at any cost must be long gone. The game aspect has completely taken over AH and the war aspect is greatly diminished.

lol
you'd rather fly around with no one to fight while staying "loyal" to your cartoon country than switch sides and actually fight?
pssst .. it is a GAME, you are not a knight, rook or bishop in real life - just in case you are confused

[Lusche]

Originally posted by NHawk
Well from what I can tell, the days of loyalty and allegiance to a country at any cost must be long gone. The game aspect has completely taken over AH and the war aspect is greatly diminished.

There are many, many fine people with good manners & conduct, utterly loyal to their "country" , never changing sides. And there are still a lot of them.

BUT - Almost all of the constant whining, *****ing, player hating little Bonapartes tryin to tell everyone what to do are also the "never-left-my country" kind of guys...


Also if I recall it correctly, the war aspect (which I did enjoy thoroughly) was always an addition to AH, an option for each player to choose.

[lazs2]

how do I contradict myself?  I don't even use the frigging perk points..

Now you are telling me that I fly the low numbered countries to earn more perk points?   That is insulting.

Why don't you switch if the frigging perk points are so valuable to you?

Switching to the lowest numbered country makes for good sportsmanship and good gameplay.

If we had to actually face each other I bet we would even up the sides.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

[Shifty]

Originally posted by NHawk
Well from what I can tell, the days of loyalty and allegiance to a country at any cost must be long gone. The game aspect has completely taken over AH and the war aspect is greatly diminished.

Edit:
Never mind Eagler covered it.


One more thing though.........
I'm really amazed at the whole chess piece thing. I never noticed how so many are really wrapped up in it . Like they are actual countries , where you vote , pay taxes, live your life and make your home. I guess it's always been there, it's become more visable to me since the change.

Some people  seem to actually think their chess piece makes them superior to people of another chess piece, or that they owe some blood alliegance to their chess piece.......  I'm not knocking it. It does seem that these are the folks that are the most passionate against the changes. Whatever floats your frigate I guess.

[Kermit de frog]

Laz, you still have only given your opinion.  Please tell us how it gives good gameplay and sportmanship more than flying with only your countrymates.  You are forgeting that many love to fly WITH their squadmates and are not loners.

[NHawk]

Originally posted by lazs2
how do I contradict myself?  I don't even use the frigging perk points..

Now you are telling me that I fly the low numbered countries to earn more perk points?   That is insulting.

Why don't you switch if the frigging perk points are so valuable to you?

Switching to the lowest numbered country makes for good sportsmanship and good gameplay.

If we had to actually face each other I bet we would even up the sides.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

I was talking about perks and changing countries. In your own mind you've turned it into a battle about something totally different.

[hubsonfire]

Originally posted by Kermit de frog
Laz, you still have only given your opinion.  Please tell us how it gives good gameplay and sportmanship more than flying with only your countrymates.  You are forgeting that many love to fly WITH their squadmates and are not loners.

Refusing to switch to the underdog country, despite numerical imbalance = poorer gameplay for the underdogs, who are also HT's paying customers. Changing sides to improve the situation is a good thing, or else HT wouldn't offer the ability, or an incentive (albeit a very small one) to change.