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Offline Furball

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« on: September 18, 2006, 02:13:32 AM »
In no particular order.

Bristol Beaufighter



Westland Whirlwind



Short Stirling



Vickers Wellington



Hurricane/Sea Hurricane IIB (& IIC for Sea Hurricane)



Gloster Gladiator

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« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2006, 08:41:56 AM »
you forgot  the swordfish must have  the swordfish if we ever got  a gladiator
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2006, 10:08:07 AM »
If we put priorities, we need Beaufighter. Lets see.....

( one more reason to have it... *52* squadrons was using it. )

Four (4) x 20 mm Hispano cannon - fixed in underside of forward fuselage
(initially loaded with 60-round drums, later equipped with belt feed)

One (1) 0.303-inch Browning or Vickers K, manually-aimed, in oberserver's position
(Fighter Command versions in general did not have this manually-aimed gun but had
six x 0.303 Browning machine guns in wings, four in outer starboard wing, two in outer port wing)

One (1) 18"/ 1,605 (728 kg) or 22.5"/ 2,127 lb (954 kg) torpedo

Wing racks for eight rockets or 2 x 1,000 lb bombs

305 m.p.h. (490 km/h) @ sea-level
320 m.p.h. (514 km/h) @ 10,000 ft. (3,048 m)

***To the Japanese, the Beaufighter became known as "The Whispering Death" (not be confused with "Whistling Death F4U Corsair) which gives some idea of the speed at which one could suddenly appear, strike and turn for home.***

( You can also dogfight, some Beaufighters had shoot down ME-109s @
Mediterranean.)

http://www.aviation-history.com/bristol/beaufite.html
http://www.compass.dircon.co.uk/Beaufighter.htm
http://www.burmabeaufighters.com/pages/beaufighters.php

**  Manuals   **      ( Pilot's Notes for Beaufighter 2nd Edition )
http://www.burrowes.org/FamilyTree/E.F.G.Burrowes_LogBook/extras/Beaufighter-Manual/

http://www.burrowes.org/FamilyTree/E.F.G.Burrowes_LogBook/extras/Beaufighter-Manual/Beaufighter-Manual-FIG2.GIF  <---  Cockpit  

In Action  http://www.military.cz/british/air/war/fighter/beaufighter/bfigs_attack.jpg

Art   http://www.aviationartprints.com/beaufighter.htm
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« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2006, 11:21:47 AM »
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***To the Japanese, the Beaufighter became known as "The Whispering Death" (not be confused with "Whistling Death F4U Corsair) which gives some idea of the speed at which one could suddenly appear, strike and turn for home.***  

Both of these were made up by western war corraspondents.  What the Japanese actually called them we had no idea.
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« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2006, 11:31:19 AM »
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you forgot  the swordfish must have  the swordfish if we ever got  a gladiator


why? they are completely different,  I just dont see the use of a Swordfish in AH.  Better off with a torp carrying Beaufighter or a Beaufort
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« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2006, 12:08:02 PM »
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why? they are completely different,  I just dont see the use of a Swordfish in AH.  Better off with a torp carrying Beaufighter or a Beaufort


because bi-planes are cool
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« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2006, 12:10:33 PM »
Marmaduke Pattle

The Uknown Best Allied Ace,  52-57 Kills flying *Gloster Gladiator* and later,
Hurricanes.

He died like hero he was, ill with doctors trying to keep him down,
one against all with his Hurricane.

(That guy bring tears to my eyes).

He died less than 2km (5000 ft) from the point where i stand and write to you.  I can see with my eyes the general point where he fell.
His Hurricane is still sunk there.

The Hero. The Best.  

http://surfcity.kund.dalnet.se/commonwealth_pattle.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/'Pat'_Pattle
http://www.answers.com/topic/marmaduke-pattle
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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2006, 12:46:59 PM »
nice list furball

an "aye" for the swordfish also.

hap
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2006, 06:18:30 AM »
Swordfish - yes please.
It's so naff to be in a powerful fighter - it means little to survive - anyone can do that.
But to survive an op in a string-bag and return to base - now that's cool! :)
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2006, 11:14:38 AM »
Boulton Paul Defiant. Superfly promised us this plane years ago. It's about time he actually got it finished! :furious
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2006, 12:15:48 PM »
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why? they are completely different,  I just dont see the use of a Swordfish in AH.  Better off with a torp carrying Beaufighter or a Beaufort
Were beaufighters carrier based?
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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2006, 12:21:33 PM »
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you forgot  the swordfish must have  the swordfish if we ever got  a gladiator


You could just jump up and down on the runway and flap your arms instead.  Seriously, a Swordfish?
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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2006, 01:58:14 PM »
The Blenheim would be a good Early RAF plane also
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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2006, 02:02:35 PM »
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Boulton Paul Defiant. Superfly promised us this plane years ago. It's about time he actually got it finished! :furious


I dunno, hubs,  seems like a lot of work to model something no one will ever use after the first week 'shine' has worn off.  The plane and the concept was a total failure and Defiants were relegated to second line duty and target tugs after they were shown to be fatally flawed.

I'd prefer to see the beaufighter, something that could square off against the 110.
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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2006, 04:50:28 PM »
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Were beaufighters carrier based?


if you are after a carrier based torp bomber then a Fairey Barracuda would be much more used and much more versatile.  



The Swordfish would be nothing but a hangar queen.  It cruised at little over 100mph, it makes the goon look fast.
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