happy consititution day

[JB88]

from the withered fields:  

Today is Constitution Day.  Thanks mainly to Sen Byrd, since 1997, if you receive US governement money you must teach about the Constitution on Sept 17th (Sept 18th this year, as the 17th is a Sunday).  This includes all local school districts.
So ... in honor of Constitution Day, Byrd and the legislature dictate what schools, K-thru-12 and colleges, should teach ... rather than leave that up to, say, local school boards and academic councils (which is, amusingly, rather unconstitutional ... but oh well, the constitution hasn't been anything but a piece of paper since at least the Civil War if not as early as the Hamilton presidency).

- t.f.s.

[JB88]

in other news.  brittany spears spilled coca cola on her shirt in front of like 5 people.  

oh my gawd.  it was like.  awful.  
i mean really and totally for sure.

[Mustaine]

I'd pay to see that, then hit it.

[midnight Target]

Hamilton was one of my favorite presidents.

He was almost as good as Franklin.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by JB88
So ... in honor of Constitution Day, Byrd and the legislature dictate what schools, K-thru-12 and colleges, should teach ... rather than leave that up to, say, local school boards and academic councils (which is, amusingly, rather unconstitutional ...

What part of the constitution prohibits the Federal Govenment from requiring certain performance criteria from those who choose to receive Federal funds?

[culero]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Hamilton was one of my favorite presidents.

He was almost as good as Franklin.

A kill has been recorded.

culero

[JB88]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
What part of the constitution prohibits the Federal Govenment from requiring certain performance criteria from those who choose to receive Federal funds?

the part which says that all things fall to the disgressionary rights of each of the individual states.  that part.

[Holden McGroin]

Originally posted by JB88
the part which says that all things unmentioned fall to the rights of individual states.  that part.

No, the states can teach whatever they want.  They are not required to teach the constitution...unless they agree to abide by the rules required by those who accept federal funds.

[JB88]

are those rules written into the constitution?

if not, it falls to the disgression of the states.

[culero]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
No, the states can teach whatever they want.  They are not required to teach the constitution...unless they agree to abide by the rules required by those who accept federal funds.

Quite right. The federal government has long ago usurped much of the states' rights to self-determination by pre-empting their ability to tax, then attaching conditions to having their own money returned to them.

culero

[Holden McGroin]

are those rules written into the constitution?

The state is not required to teach the constitution....

By accepting the federal money they have agreed to abide by the rules the money brings along with it.

So you want the States to be able to spend the money the Federal Government earmarks for projects any old way they want to....

The Feds give your state money earmarked for ecosystem restoration? Gold leaf  the state capitols dome instead, must be ok by you...

[JB88]

without an amendment condoning it, that is to say.

[JB88]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
The state is not required to teach the constitution....

By accepting the federal money they have agreed to abide by the rules the money brings along with it.

So you want the States to be able to spend the money the Federal Government earmarks for projects any old way they want to....

The Feds give your state money earmarked for ecosystem restoration? Gold leaf  the state capitols dome instead, must be ok by you...

that's not the point.  

is that power granted to the government or to the states by the consitution as it stands?

[culero]

Originally posted by Holden McGroin
snip
So you want the States to be able to spend the money the Federal Government earmarks for projects any old way they want to....

Actually, I'd personally prefer that the feds were never allowed to get away with extorting money from the people of my state by calling it "federal tax".

culero

[JB88]

what he said...by about half.