lol you guys are talking about jewishness as an ethnicity like it's up for discussion or something. it's not opinion based anymore than being a turk or a greek is. you can be mixed or whatever but jewishness is an ethnicity - all these what if arguments and exceptions are time wasters a greeks a greek, a turks a turk you know it and i know i know it.
you are letting the fact that a religion with the same name exists psych you out
- there is a religion called judaism, you can be a religious jew but not an ethnic jew: sammy davis jr for example.- there is an ethnicity called 'jewish', you can be jewish and have no religious affiliation whatsoever ALTHOUGH people who are of this faith are likely to be ethnic jews as well because the religion discourages people who aren't of "superior jewish blood" and dont have a lineage tracable to king david from joining and really only takes on a few token converts per year...
mikod's thread is about ethnic jews and has nothing to do with religion. although i would say the cultural attributes of the ethnic jew borrowed heavily from the religion whether they practice or not so its fair game to introduce religious ideals when talking about ethnic jews in a lot of instances.
please learn the distinction - ethnic jews aren't just picked arbitrarily, they share common genetic history and save me the bit about "we all share a common genetic history" we are posting in the real world where you can tell a black guy from a white guy despite their common genetic history.
stating some example like "but what if a jew married a turk and then their kid married an irishman and you dont know! you dont know!" doesnt really offer anything to the crux of the debate.
in fact there is an interesting case about a group of africans in southern africa who have jewish genetic material in their blood which is relatively unadulterated which has prompted all kinds of cool theories but that's beside the point -
i dont agree with mikos superiority theory either but i know the difference between an ethnic and religious jew - i mean really! dont embarass whatever ethnicity you choose to affiliate with by not realizing the distinction.
jews
in my experience show an above average intelligence and a below average moral bearing - i can't prove that scientifically only experientially which leaves all kinds of potential for error! that's my take as i see it, i could be dead wrong and make no bones about it!
- trying to show that using science insults science - by offering my experience only, you can hate me or disagree with me all day, but i'm not going to drag science thru the mud in the process.
