Author Topic: Breaking News! It's time for the real war to begin!  (Read 1459 times)

Offline lazs2

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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2006, 02:08:01 PM »
AvA is the worst idea in a sim.   It effectively makes for an extreme low variety in fights...

How long before eveyone learns that LW planed climb well?

It is allways a magnitude more complex when the people you encounter and the people on your side all have a variety of planes with their diverse flight models...  Plus...

If I am flying an f4f... I want to run into someone else flying one once in a while and see how they do it... same for every other plane.

I did not start in flight sims to recreate or be a war games re enacter...  War was not fair or fun.

I wanted to see how the planes flew and how they flew against each other..

I am re creating the fun that military testers had testing planes of other nations in comparison tests but... I get to shoot and they did not.

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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2006, 02:26:26 PM »
as lazs stated, real war would be boring in a game
hopefully it is not the case with CT when it finally hits production.
EW arena is as much fun if not more than AvA has ever been.. I do not think breaking AvA into time periods would do anything but create 3 ghost rooms instead of one.
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2006, 02:32:05 PM »
With the success of the Combat Theatre, I don't see how an arena like this could fail.

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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2006, 05:11:02 PM »
S! mr fork

i disagree.  i been here around 6 years too and one of the things that made ah great is choices of rides.  its great to be able to fly an early war ride, land or get shot down and grab something newer w/o leaving the arena ur in.  i believe there r great fights out there between early an late rides.  i like the choice.  its fun when your in say a zeke and something newer trys to kill you.  work him down to your level with finess and skill.  

if that dont werk, ho the bastad    :D

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« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2006, 08:54:53 AM »
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if that dont werk, ho the bastad    :D

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« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2006, 09:58:19 AM »
IIRC hitech said something along the lines of "not gunna happn" regarding 2 countries wars.

^^ I am however unsure about the spelling that was used.
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« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2006, 12:02:04 PM »
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Fork gets up off his chair, and walks up onto the stage.  The lone speakers stand has a single microphone, it's red light indicating a live mic.  He steps up to the mic, slightly lowers his head, and speaks.

Fork:  "Hi, my name is Fork. "

Crowd: "Hi Fork"

Fork: "I've been an Aces High addict for almost six years now. And I finding that my addition is not filling my needs.

With the new three arena's now in place, I do believe it's time that HTC move away from the game-play of three sides, Rooks, Bishops, and Knights,  and move into the real war we've been seeking - Axis versus Allies.

I know I'm the admin for the AvA arena, but I think with the separation of the generations of aircraft, we should enter the true Aces High - Axis versus Allies arenas - Early, Mid, and Late war for each series.  

The tri-country model is old, and not conducive to the growth and the arena numbers that HTC seeks to create in this game.  There are a couple of reasons for this:

a) The three country model works only for a small and simple game design based strictly on simple air-vs-air combat, with limited strategy. Let's face it, Aces High is now a complex combat simulator with real-life tactics and strategies.  A two-sided war is truly independent of #'s of players.

b) The side balancing would truly be effective for a two country war.  Too many allies in the late war? No P-51's, Tempests, or late model Spitfires until the numbers balance out.

c) A two side war is really what the arena squadrons are seeking.  I can't speak for my squadron, but seeing the names like JG3-Udet, 490TH Battlin BullDogs, and 460 Sqn RAAF, it seems that players are trying to model history life in a game that doesn't match it.

d) History.  All of us are military history freaks.  I know I am, and I play other games including Silent Hunter, Call of Duty, and IL2, not because I want to 'play a game', I want to live history.  Living history in a fictitious three front war named after chess pieces, does not model history.

e) New player growth.  Ever time I speak to buddies who I convince to download and try Aces High are not impressed that you can fly a P-51 vs a Spitfire.  They are expecting to fly a P-51 against a Bf-109.  With new customers, we should match expectations with gameplay.   WWII Online has found that a two sided model works well, very well.

f) Headaches.  I think the three country model with all aircraft creates more problems than it worth.  Balancing three sides is a lot harder than two.

We all love this game.  It's time for the war to begin! Are you with me?"

Fork sets back from the microphone, looks at the crowd, and quietly walks back to his chair.

Someone in crowd: "who's this nut case?"

Someone else: "donno. He's the admin in the AvA Arena"

Somone: "Was the admin you mean (snicker). Maybe he has a point?"

Else: "Maybe, but it's Pyro's and Hitech's game. Let them decide."

Someone: "True. True. But he has a point."


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« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2006, 02:24:17 PM »
Mr Fork,

Lets put these theaters into a large map as a historical town.  Just like we do with fighter town.

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« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2006, 09:36:31 PM »
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have to agree
there would be no one playing axis ... or living to tell about it


its only cos axis planes are undermodeled.....


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« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2006, 11:47:09 PM »
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Fork: "I've been an Aces High addict for almost six years now. And I finding that my addition is not filling my needs.
 


Something about your post just doesn't add up.

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« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2006, 01:15:54 AM »
:rofl

Yep. Addiction. Dang Google spell checker... :p
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« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2006, 01:21:04 AM »
lol