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Offline Gunthr

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« on: November 15, 2000, 01:49:00 PM »
Can you recieve a message almost before it is sent? Fascinating stuff (to me, anyway)
 http://www.foxnews.com/science/060500/times_speed.sml

Voting devices should use this technology. Palm Beachers would be confused before they knew why...  

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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2000, 02:15:00 PM »
Incredible stuff...thanks for the link  
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2000, 02:44:00 PM »
Cool, thks for info, I eat this stuff up!

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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2000, 03:12:00 PM »
Those poor scientists are sorely deluded. Time is an illusion!

There's no such thing as an objective past or future. All there is in actuality is the present moment.

The future exists as idea and the past exists as memory but both are contained in the present!  

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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2000, 03:42:00 PM »
 I predict this will be another "cold" fusion type of break through  

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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2000, 06:56:00 PM »
 Though this is amazing stuff. It is also way off topic. I feel that it should be moved to the off topic, off topic forum

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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2000, 06:58:00 PM »
I understand the inspiration for this technology was the FW 190....
 

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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2000, 07:11:00 PM »
 <rubs chin>

 I suspected such.

 I once saw a glimmer of a picture that had a man who bore no small resemblance to our dear Dr Tank. He was holding a flux capacitor while standing in front of a four wehlled stainless steel vehicle that looked like a Focke-Wulf with gull wing doors.

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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2000, 09:28:00 PM »
Those scientists were just warp cheaters.

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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2000, 07:07:00 AM »
I remember reading about this a while back.

I've got a degree in Physics and I remember someone did an essay on time-travel/teleportation. Interesting stuff, but practically a load of crap. I seem to remember the teleportation project involved 'teleporting' an electron (or it might have been a pseudo-particle - I can't remember exactly) over the length of a lab. It was very quantum mechanical and as such very dull.
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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2000, 10:50:00 AM »
It is a joke, right? It's so full of scientifically sounding nonsense that it's almost believable.

The only problem is this guy (the journalist) has obviously never learnt basic logic to jump to conclusions almost FTL .

 
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In research carried out in the United States, particle physicists have shown that light pulses can be accelerated to up to 300 times their normal velocity of 186,000 miles per second.

The implications, like the speed, are mind-boggling. On one interpretation it means that light will arrive at its destination almost before it has started its journey. In effect, it is leaping forward in time.
Where the heck did this conclusion come from? "Almost before"? It sounds like "somewhat pregnant" .

References to "caesium gas" (it's a metal) and "photons — the particles of which light is made" (light is EM waves) make me understand what happens when people study Science at school In good ol' days we had physics, chemistry etc taught separately . Then again - whatever keeps one amused...

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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2000, 10:59:00 AM »
Sorry to piss on yur bonfire lynx, but that article is more accurate than you are.  

Caesium can exist in several states.

Light possesses a duality in its nature. Before the advent of quantum mechanics, light was indeed thought to exclusively exist as a wave. But classical wave theory could not explain black body radiation (among many other anomalies). Only when light is considered to be a discrete particle (i.e. the photon) can be situations be explained/predicted. The truth is that the wave model of light propagation works for some instances, but fails for others. The ones it works very well for tend to involve a macroscopic frame of reference, where as when you get down to the sub-atomic level, the use of a corpuscular model (i.e. the quantum mechanical photon) tend to fit observations more closely.

Hope that helps.  
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« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2000, 11:09:00 AM »
  . . . My cat's breath smells like cat food.
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« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2000, 11:44:00 AM »
LOL!

Are they hallucinating?

Already met this description in one Russian book. Thought it is a joke. Sad to see it's real.

Looks like education is a great problem in the US...

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« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2000, 11:54:00 AM »
........head.....hurts....... ..

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