Author Topic: 533MHz FSB on a 800MHZ mobo? (Read 458 times)

Krusty · « **on:** September 19, 2006, 03:06:52 PM »

I have a 533MHz FSB P5 2.66 GHz at the moment. Unfortunately my Socket775 mobo isn't going ot support Conroe. I'm sort of planning (in my head only, I can't afford to in reality!) on updating my PC.

I'm on AGP and DDR PC3200 at the moment, so if I upgrade to a conroe-compatible mobo I need a PCIE 3D card and DDR2 (800MHz?) ram.

Well that's a lot of money. Especially if I have to toss in a Conroe core. Heck the ideal one (the lowest 4MB cache one) is about $230!!

So I was wondering if I could get a socket775 motherboard that has PCIE and/or DDR2 but doesn't require conroe (and yet supports it for future upgrades).

Problem is it looks like the conroe-compatible mobos have FSB listed as: 800MHz/1066MHz.

Can you take a 533MHz CPU and put it into a 800MHz mobo? Will it just under-clock the motherboard? Or will it not even run??

There's just no cheap way to upgrade, it seems.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #1 on:** September 19, 2006, 04:06:44 PM »

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131031

Scroll down to "Supported CPUs". Looks like it supports yours and "Core2" which is Conroe. I would guess any Socket T mobo will work.

Krusty · « **Reply #2 on:** September 19, 2006, 04:34:53 PM »

Well it says it supports that type, but I wasn't sure if it meant "chips of that type, but running at 800MHz FSB minimum" or not.

StarOfAfrica2 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 19, 2006, 04:42:24 PM »

It will work. It wont be fast but it will work. Main problem is going to be with the DDR2 memory. You really cant take good advantage of it with a slow processor, and underclocking your FSB is esentially going to drop your memory bandwidth into the toilet.

Krusty · « **Reply #4 on:** September 19, 2006, 05:46:55 PM »

Figures!

Well I'm not going to upgrade for a while, then. Even a mid-range upgrade is going to cost me $600 or so. I just replaced almost all these parts December of last year, as well, so it's a real PITA that everybody went PCIE and left us AGP'ers behind!

Clutz · « **Reply #5 on:** September 19, 2006, 06:28:05 PM »

Krusty, Krusty, Krusty, It ain't going to happen. Give it up bro. No Conroe for u.

Actually, I have read your threads and I see a method to your madness. But like the old expression goes, "you can't polish a terd". Now if u can get that visualization out of your mind, u cant get this idea of a conroe out of your mind as well.

Don't feel all alone here, I think most of us are in the same hardware boat as u are. I know I am.

NOT · « **Reply #6 on:** September 19, 2006, 06:37:34 PM »

newegg has credit account you could apply for. it offers no payment for 6 months. just a thought.

Wardog · « **Reply #7 on:** September 19, 2006, 08:52:24 PM »

Your kinda looking at upgrading, just not what you need. Get a Conroe board that supports AGP and DDR, carry over your Video card and ram and upgrade the CPU down the road. ASRock has a budget board that would be perfect for your needs.

ASRock 775DUAL-VSTA ATX LGA775 Conroe PT800 PRO.

LGA 775 for Intel® Dual Core Pentium® XE and Pentium® D / Pentium® 4 / Celeron® D, supporting Conroe, Presler and Cedar Mill processors

VIA PT880 Pro/Ultra Chipset

Supports FSB1066/800/533MHz processor, EM64T CPU and H-T Technology

Supports Dual Channel DDRII667 (DDRII x 2 DIMMs) and DDR400 (DDR x 2 DIMMs)

Untied Overclocking : During Overclocking, FSB enjoys better margin due to fixed PCIE/ PCI Buses
1 x PCIE 16x Express Graphics slot
1 x AGP 8X slot
Hybrid Booster - Safe Overclocking Technology
2 ports of SerialATA 1.5Gb/s, support RAID 0, 1, JBOD, 2 ATA133 IDE ports
HDMI_SPDIF header, providing SPDIF audio output to HDMI VGA card, allows the system to connect HDMI Digital TV/projector/LCD devices.
7.1 channel with High Definition Audio, 10/100 Ethernet LAN
Windows Vista™ Premium Logo Hardware Ready
HD 8CH I/O: 4 ready-to-use USB2.0 ports, HD 7.1 channel audio jacks

This board runs for about $85.00 CDN. Im not a big fan of the VIA chipset but for the price and the abilty to carry over your old parts and upgrade the CPU to Conroe... I thinks this works perfectly. Oh ya, it supports APG & PCI-E so you can upgrade the Video card down the road as well.

Dog out

Krusty · « **Reply #8 on:** September 19, 2006, 10:07:36 PM »

Clutz: lmao, thanks, that helps

Wardog: Eventually I want conroe, however I also eventually want PCIE, because PCIE video cards are being given 2x the performance of top-of-the-line AGP cards right now, and that's only going to get worse. They're also cheaper than their AGP counterparts. Also when you find a GeForce 7800 in PCIE and in AGP, the AGP has half the pipelines disabled.

So basically I want PCIE. Conroe can wait til I win the lotery

It's much cheaper to upgrade 3D card than to buy a conroe... Or at least, I thought it was...

Wardog · « **Reply #9 on:** September 19, 2006, 10:34:04 PM »

Krusty

Dude, read my post again.. Look at the Specs listed, then read all the way to the bottom right.

AGP & PCI-E 16x..... The board supports both cards..

LOL, man.. when reading a post start at the top left corner and work your way to the bottom right hand corner, but most imortantly read everything in between.

Dog out.

Krusty · « **Reply #10 on:** September 20, 2006, 09:42:55 AM »

My apologies, wardog. I did, indeed, miss that part at the bottom.

EDIT: hm.... I'm liking that mobo. Liking it a lot.

Question though: It says the PCIE slot is only 4x not 16x. I don't know much about the speed multipliers (I think it's the available bus paths??) but does this mean a good PCIE video card would be bottlenecked severely? Or does it mean nothing, as most PCIE video cards don't use (for example) even half of the available bus paths?