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Offline Halo

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Revolver Shell Ejection Problem
« on: September 19, 2006, 06:29:50 PM »
My Ruger Security-Six .357/.38 double action revolver has a problem ejecting shells from two of its six chambers.  It loads fine, and ejects .38s, but hangs up two casings when firing .357.  

Yeah, I test fired it before I traded a lightweight .38 for it, but only in .38 (duh).  I usually fire only .38 at the range to stay more economical, and did not realize two of the chambers were balky until occasionally firing .357s.

I have a call in to a recommended gunsmith, but meanwhile thought I'd see if any of you can shed any light on this.  

The cylinder loads fine with either .357 or .38.  When I test chamber clearance with empty .357 shells, they go in easily in four of the chambers, but stick about halfway in the two problem chambers.

I've cleaned the cylinder thoroughly and can't see anything that looks out of place.  The only clue might be slight half moon-shaped wear patterns in the outer edge of the bluing where shells are inserted in the two problem chambers.

My laymen guess is that the two chambers just need to be bored out by the teeniest margin.  But I don't know if there is a more serious underlying problem that would make that unwise.  

What do you think?
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2006, 06:32:29 PM »
This isnt one of those lightweight guns is it?

Could be leading in those chambers?

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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2006, 06:34:21 PM »
No, the Security-Six is a nice solid medium-frame steeler.

I've scoured the chambers with usual wire brush and Hoppe's Powder Solvent.  They look spotless and the cotton patches come through clean.
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2006, 06:42:58 PM »
Do you reload?  Could be a few hot rounds sticking the brass to the cylinder.  Big grain powder will jam up a revolver also when unburnt grains stick between the cylinder/barrel gap.



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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2006, 06:51:03 PM »
No, I don't reload -- only shoot standard box ammo.

This problem is only in the cylinder.  Fired .357 shells won't eject from two of the six chambers.  I have to push them out with a cleaning rod after they cool.
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Re: Revolver Shell Ejection Problem
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2006, 06:51:20 PM »
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What do you think?


I think you should contact Sturm Ruger and ask if an RMA is required in order to send them that weapon for correction. Then you should send it to them. They will fix it and send it back.

Last time I checked, you are permitted to ship a weapon to its manufacturer for repairs without a FFL.

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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2006, 06:52:52 PM »
I think if you send it back to ruger they will repair your excellent revolver and return it to you better than new, free of charge.

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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2006, 06:54:30 PM »
I suppose this is evidence that *******s think alike :)

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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2006, 06:57:59 PM »
Find out in your state if you have to send it by someone with a FFL.  By all means send it back to Ruger for replacement or repair.  They may not charge you for it.


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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2006, 07:01:23 PM »
Try a different brand of .357.
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2006, 07:42:56 PM »
It is possible that it is slightly out of time on those two chambers. If it is, then that will make the pressure spike and cause the cases stick. I agree completely with Kelly , contact Ruger and send it back, they'll make it right.
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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2006, 07:51:03 PM »
I'm hoping for a magic fix, something I've overlooked.  

If that doesn't pop up in this thread, I'll probably ship the Security-Six to Ruger.  

I got it on a trade and it's worth only about $200, so I'll gamble $20 to $90 or so that it can be repaired and maybe even renovated.  

I can ship it direct UPS from Virginia.

Other options include:

Keeping using it as a .38 for the firing range and home defense.

Use .357 as a four-chamber loading at the range, or as a six-chamber loading for home defense realizing that two chambers take a long while to eject .357.  

Whichever option, I'll call Ruger and make sure this is not the beginning of a safety issue.

Thanks for your help and interest.  I thought this might be useful as an example of the kind of firearm maintenance and tweaking we all go through.  

And I still hope someone will have the "magic bullet" that lets me solve this without having to ship the gun off.
« Last Edit: September 19, 2006, 07:53:26 PM by Halo »
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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2006, 08:26:55 PM »
If it's a manufacturing thing...and it sounds like it...the best place to have it fixed is the manufacturer.

I own 2 Rugers; a P89 9mm and a .44 Magnum.  Zero trouble with either of them though I don't think I'd buy another P89.

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« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2006, 08:29:47 PM »
load .357 in 4 of the chambers, .38 in the other two.

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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2006, 09:20:22 PM »
I hope lazs doesnt read this thread, it will rock his world.  Revolvers are perfect.  :D
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