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Offline nirvana

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« on: September 20, 2006, 12:36:26 AM »
My dad is constantly raving over the "mail order jeep" that is shipped to you in a crate and put together, it sounds a bit far fetched to me, but has anyone heard it this being true?  I wouldn't mind putting one together as a side projectbut i'm skeptical.


I've also been thinking about replacing my Ford Probe with a Jeep Wrangler, mainly for a bit more control in traffic.  Is there anything I should be weary of when looking?
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« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2006, 12:49:29 AM »
There was a company selling jeeps, I think as new like that. Remember seeing them being sold through brigade qaurtermasters.





You can build a CJ jeep nothing, they make every part you need.


If you want to get good gas mileage don't get a wrangler. If thats not your concern and you want a good Vehicle for ofroad use its great.

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« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2006, 12:51:40 AM »
They used to advertise them in comics years and years ago, for like $50. PLUS shipping.  What they were were generally M151 mutts left over from Korea.  Friend of mine bought one when we were 13 or 14 and ended up spending $500.00 to finish it out.  Was cool to have around and I remember it fondly.  Not sure how he bought it and got it from, but he got it in shipping crates covered in cosmoline!
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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2006, 02:59:03 AM »
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]mainly for a bit more control in traffic.


Huh?  A jeep?  Unless you're talking about pure turning radius or hopping curbs, I'd much rather have my old Saturn back when it comes to any sort of driving in traffic.

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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2006, 03:21:35 AM »
I used to have a wrangler.  It was a piece of crap but I loved it.

Considerations:

Who owned it?  Is it well taken care of?  Check engine especially.  Jeeps have a tendency to get beat the hell out of.  Check mechanicals very carefully.  Clutch system is worth a good check too.

Definatly find something used, in good condition and with some good upgrades.  Aftermarket parts don't really add any resale value untill you get into major suspension/engine upgrades.  You can get good tires, rockerbars and all sorts of other stuff on it.  Check accessory sites to get a good idea of which  parts are cool and which suck (floppy mirrors believe me).  Jeeps are the most accessorizable vehicle I've ever seen.

Keep in mind that they're not great on the highway, and they're rather small, but newer ones will go well on highway, except for gas milage.

Even with accessories, don't pay more than 5-7,000 for it.  Unless it's super new with low milage and good stuff included.  Even then, you can find a good used one (even CJ) for around that price range.  

Soft tops are good but parachutes on the highway.  Also kinda cold in winter. Hard tops are cool for winter, but soft top is divine in the summer.  (You never get locked out with a soft top)

What other vehicle can pop the doors off, drop the top and still turn a complete circle in a residential street?  For added pimpness when cruizing, get aviator goggles and put windshield down.

MOST DEFINATLY get a manual transmission!!!!  Automatics are 3 speed and a bastardization of what a jeep really is.  Dont be lazy, get a stick!  They are very very easy to push start with two people if you have a stick.  

It WILL be 4x4 (all jeeps are) but locking hubs (rather than static as are stock) will greatly improve gas milage.  

Keep in mind they are top heavy like any truck, but not bad.  Just don't slam it into turns.

Want a radio?  Either get a sound bar, one of the other speaker boxes or screw regular 6x9 boxes to the wheel wells like I did.

Riding chariot style offroading with a trusted driver and the top down is awesome!

When my fanclutch went out on my inline 4cyl, we took it off and my friend was standing in my engine compartment!  Lots of space to work on it (older jeeps).  Good do it yourselfer.  

Dont get an inline 4cyl, get a 6cyl.  (capable of fitting V8 with good mechanics help, but this is overkill)

If you want to offroad, get a winch, or find one with it on there already.  Grill guards are important too.  I personally perfer the Euroguard (no idea why that name).

No dome light?  I reccomend an A/C converter and christmas lights for that festive look.  Roll bars are so multifunctional.  (.30 cal MG doesn't hurt either, and tends to help with traffic.  Obviously kidding here, and not sure about legalities, but you can actually buy a semi auto .30 MG for $1100-1600, check gun broker)

Camp Jeep looks like fun, check it out!

Deliver pizzas?  Car toppers sit well on the hood!  Belive me!  Pizza place got those old window flags?  Go for the staff car look with the hood clamps!  This is a lot of fun too.

Stock jacks suck and won't work with a lift kit.  Get a good heavy duty one.

For offroading at night, lights on top of windshield are best.  They shine over the hills, think line of sight.

Most importantly:   When you get a jeep, always execute proper jeep wave when passing other jeeps!!! Either extending fingers above wheel or sticking hand firmly out open (gaping open) window.  Havn't seen it before?  Belive me you will.  One of the best things about a jeep is the community.  Its a jeep thing, anyone else just wouldn't understand.

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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2006, 07:34:44 AM »
The new "Jeep in a crate" is a scam and a myth.

For a few years after WW2, a few surplus (Willys MB - Ford GPW) jeeps were available as Army Surplus, but the supply very quickly dried up.

Also, Jeeps were not shipped in crates, they left the factorys fully assembled and ready to drive, but with the windshield and tops folded down to save space and prevent damage during shipping, and the tools and other accessories mounted in wooden boxes and secured in or on the vehicle.

This method of shipping was and still is SOP (Standard Operating Procedure) for ALL vehicles and  weapons systems delivered to the U.S. Military, incuding the newest HMMWVs.

At the end of WW2, the U.S. military mostly abandoned-in-place the thousands of jeeps that had been used overseas, and relatively few were ever shipped home. Those units that remained on active-duty service after the return to the States and demobilization, received new jeeps that were still available in the supply system and at depots still awaiting overseas shipment. These were used until the supplies ran out.

The MBs and GPWs were used thru the early days of the Viet Nam war.

The M-151 (Mutt not Jeep) was a completely different Viet Nam war era replacement for all the old Jeeps that were worn out. A few of those also made it into the Army Surplus market, but they were mostly fairly worn-out examples.

Due to the fear of liability issues, the current SOP for disposal of wheeled vehicles requires stripping the chasis of all parts and running-gear, draining of fuel and other fluids, and then CUTTING THE CHASIS INTO UN-USEABLE CHUNKS with a torch or shear.

Sadly the remains are then sold as scrap metal.

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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2006, 08:10:29 AM »
Thanks for info guys, my Ford does alright until it snows then turning is almost nonexistant, partly due to tire tread.  I also like the relative ease of maintenance, few bolts and it's off.  I'm gonna look around, saw one for 5,000 with a hardtop.  I'll consult my parents, considering we've only had that Probe for 3 years now not sure if they want to part so soon or not.  Gas milkeage is a little concern so those locking hubs would go on pretty quick.


And manual is the only way to go.
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2006, 09:31:17 AM »
I've had my 93 Wrangler YJ for about 7 years now and still love to hate it.  it's got the I6 engine in it and I did a swap on it for a longblock kit about 3 years ago so that's running strong.  I need to replace the stock suspension.  After 127K miles its starting to go.  

In the last 4 years or so I've replaced
Brakes
Water pump
02 sensor
CPS sensor
MAF Sensor
Radiator
All the hoses and belts
Got rid of my hard top


On my to do list are:
Suspension
Exhaust (manifold all the way to the pipe)

Unfortuanaly with my year and my year alone they do not make headers for it due to it being and automatic so I might have that done custom.  

But alas the jeep is paid for.  Other than it getting crappy gas miliage (about 13-15MPG) it's still fun to drive and take off road.  It doesn't have A/C so that sucks during the summer.

In addition I bought one of those center console stereo holders wich has probably kept the thing from getting stolen all these years but I wired it up wrong.  I hooked the 12VDC Switched to the dimmer switch and now that the fuse that runs the ciggarette lighter is out the radio only works when I have the lights on.  Not a big deal just a pain to rewire it considering the console is bolted underneath the jeep.