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Offline Toad

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« on: November 10, 2001, 09:37:00 AM »
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"ISLAMABAD (CNN) -- In an interview published in a Pakistani newspaper, Osama bin Laden says his al Qaeda group has nuclear and chemical weapons and will use them against the United States if attacked."
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2001, 09:40:00 AM »
Welcome back, you were missed.  :)
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2001, 12:42:00 PM »
Toad, he can have something that can be called "chemical weapons", something like chlorine or fosgen (sp?), that were used in WWI. Any chemical factory with equipment built in last 70 years is capable to produce it.

When he speaks about "nukes" - forget about it.

I think that in a week or two he will say about their new super-puper quark bomb that is smaller then a tennis ball and will break the Earth in pieces.

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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2001, 01:46:00 PM »
So far, the only weapons they have been proven to use against the US were box cutters.  Think about it.

[ 11-11-2001: Message edited by: easymo ]

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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2001, 01:58:00 PM »
Hes just playing his usual propaganda war, not dedicated for west, but for muslim world.

He states clearly that he nukes US if they nuke afganistan - US wouldn't nuke afganistan, he knows it well, so he can claim that since he would never have to prove it true..

So, the effects in muslim world?
this lunatics popularity will grow even more within muslims.
Also too many muslims might think he actually prevents US from nuking afganistan - they wouldn't believe crap on what US says, they think just that they are in war with afganistan and might as well just nuke it.
..at least after all that brainwashing or/and propaganda.

Lets not forget that september 11th was jewish conspiracy...    right?
at least so those whos been brainwashed with propaganda thinks.

[ 11-10-2001: Message edited by: Fishu ]

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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2001, 11:47:00 PM »
Thanks, Mr. Bill, I appreciate that. It's good to BE back.

Not 100% yet, but I'm working at it.
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2001, 10:16:00 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by Fishu:
Hes just playing his usual propaganda war, not dedicated for west, but for muslim world.

He states clearly that he nukes US if they nuke afganistan - US wouldn't nuke afganistan, he knows it well, so he can claim that since he would never have to prove it true..

So, the effects in muslim world?
this lunatics popularity will grow even more within muslims.
Also too many muslims might think he actually prevents US from nuking afganistan - they wouldn't believe crap on what US says, they think just that they are in war with afganistan and might as well just nuke it.
..at least after all that brainwashing or/and propaganda.

Lets not forget that september 11th was jewish conspiracy...    right?
at least so those whos been brainwashed with propaganda thinks.

[ 11-10-2001: Message edited by: Fishu ]

Hmmm... Imagine what would happen if he chose to nuke himself. Why matyr yourself when you can matyr your entire country?
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2001, 01:40:00 PM »
On the other hand, we could use one and claim one of our conventional bombs set off his nuke :D

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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2001, 03:45:00 PM »
I can't help but believe that if he had nuclear capability, we would not have seen airplanes crashing into the towers in NY.

He ain't got em. If he did, he would have used them by now.

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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2001, 06:11:00 PM »
All Osamas got in his hands is a toejamload of Flyspray and a couple of second hand Microwave ovens  :)

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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2001, 08:55:00 AM »
Hello

Maybe he really have nukes, but not the modern small warheads that US have... Maybe they be able to build a hiroshima style Uranium bomb, but not more....


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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2001, 12:26:00 PM »
nuke, hmmm nothing complicated if you have the necesery high isotope metals !

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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2001, 12:59:00 PM »
Minus, the A-bomb is not as simple as it is pictured in school Physics text books.

Even now, with all he modern microelecronics that is cheap and efficient, it is impossible to make a Bomb without special devices, like "cryotrones" etc. Weapon Plutonium is a very rare and expencive substance, and I doubt anyone can buy it, maybe in Hollywood movies only. And you have to design an extremely precise and reliable detonating system, that includes many stages from shaping a plutonium "charge" (an impossible thing even in a lab with modern chemical and physical equipment) to making conventional-explosive "ignition" charges without any mechanical defects and testing the detonation system. First A-bombs costed many times the cost of the TNT that had the same effect (20,000 metric tons). It took USSR four years to make a Bomb, and it took the effort comparable to the Great Patriotic War.

Even a mass-production of "conventional" explosives is impossible without equipment and technology that costs millions dollars, requires highest-grade engineering personnel, and is extremely specialised. It is impossible to produce, say, 100 tons of ballistite gunpowder or even such a primitive substance as trinitrotoluene in Afghanistan now.

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« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2001, 01:23:00 PM »
Take a two story house with a basement.  Run drill pipe from the basement to the attic.  Fill the basement, and first and second floors with sand or gravel.  Take your machined half-spheres of bomb grade and make a sabot to hold them square in the pipe.  Duct-tape a stick of dymamite to the rear of each half-sphere assembly and put one in the bottom and one in the top, facing such that the half-spheres will form a whole on contact.  The only thing that is hard is timing the firing of the dynamite, but a couple hundred bucks worth of good photo flash equipment will work.

Voila!  Nuclear device.

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« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2001, 01:39:00 PM »
Yes. A nuclear device. Civil defence will have a hard time removing all that "hot" stuff spread all around, together with a few inches of soil.

Ever heard about detonation waves and geometry of an explosive charge? About "detonation lenses" used to straighten the wave front even in "cumulative" antitank hand grenades?

Ever heard that Plutonium is pyrophorus?

Hehe, glue tape  :)