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« Reply #60 on: November 22, 2000, 11:43:00 AM »
Gordo,

That is not the case at all. You are correct that there were 2 laws in contest, however, the court opinion applied to neither one. They wrote their own! The judicial branch is interpretive only. They cannot legislate law.
As to the US Supreme court, they won't even hear it IMHO, it will be sent back down.

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« Reply #61 on: November 22, 2000, 12:02:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Lance:

The thing is, Bush has had an opportunity since day one to push for recounts in other counties.  He had a golden opportunity to push for a statewide recount before Harris ruled in his favor when Gore said that he would support such a recount and abide by it with no further legal action.  But Bush didn't.  Why?

I was watching Tim Russert on NBC last night, and he had some humourous commentary on this. This is paraphrased, but basically he said something like this: Bush didn't ask for a recount because Democratic supporters tend to be more frail, elderly, or poorly educated, and would be more likely to make mistakes on ballots. Thus, a recount in the whole state would favor Gore. Now, don't attack me, I think it's a poor stereotype, but I did think it was funny as hell  


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« Reply #62 on: November 22, 2000, 12:08:00 PM »
Heh!

Yeah, Apache, it does look goofy from the little excerpts I've had a chance to read.  That's why I want to see it go to the supreme court.

Alright, I am outta here through the weekend.  Hook 'em!

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« Reply #63 on: November 22, 2000, 12:38:00 PM »
Heh, Ripsnort we share a common border with Montana, and many, MANY firearms rights activists up here are members of units/clubs in Montana.  A local shop here that sells hard to get items like Armored Vehicles (they have 2 M113's and a couple Cheiftan MBT's at the moment) has been closed for two days, and I can't get a hold of either of the guys that run the place (my shop used to send them business, and a couple clients of mine are trying to get in touch with them).  You watch, those guys are nuttier than a Christmas fruitcake, and if things go awry (in their opinion) CNN will have some pretty interesting television coverage in the North West.

I just heard Miami-Dade voted 3-0 to stop the recounts.  HAHA @F4DOA and all the other gay loving degenerate Demotards.  Game - Set - Match.  Oops, unless Gore's camp files yeat ANOTHER appeal.  

I find it funny that this all has to happen in Florida, where gun ownership is probably higher per capita than anywhere else in the Nation.  The state is even shaped like a gun.  I hope Florida doesn't have any crazies like there are here and in Montana, or that pointy headed llama Warren Christopher might get a piano dropped on his head.

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« Reply #64 on: November 22, 2000, 02:42:00 PM »
Gman,

 
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HAHA @F4DOA and all the other gay loving degenerate Demotards. Game - Set - Match. Oops, unless Gore's camp files yeat ANOTHER appeal.



The internet is great for two things. Online gaming and people who like to hide behind an anonymous computer screen and throw stones. You are the pencil neck geek in the car in the next lane that flips the bird and drives away. You are a coward.

Toad/Ripsnort,

This is what the other side looks like from were I'm standing. You may not like some of the democrats you see on TV but people like Gman is what I see on these boards every day. I'm just glad this puke lives far enough away from people so he doesn't hurt someone or get hurt. I guess it's a good thing Canada has gun control laws so losers like this stay at the bottom of food chain where they belong.

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« Reply #65 on: November 22, 2000, 02:55:00 PM »
Apache,

I was being facetious. I am in favor of the law being upheld, and believe it was. Here is a quote from the ruling justices.

 
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“Twenty-five years ago, this court commented that the will of the people, not a hyper-technical reliance upon statutory provisions, should be our guiding principle in election cases,” the court said.

I agree with this. I don't think a faulty ballot system should decide the next president of the US. This is the essence of the law, to let the people decide. Gore may not win just because there is a hand count. It is still a wide open issue. And I think George W. owes it to the people of the US to let this play out considering he did not win the popular vote or the majority of the electoral vote. The least he could do to validate a term in office is to make sure that he won the one state that would put him over the top in electoral votes.

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« Reply #66 on: November 22, 2000, 04:31:00 PM »
If this situation was EXACTLY reversed, vote totals, speeches and court rulings since the election, etc., etc., etc.

How many of you guys would be saying the exact same things in your posts?

There's the true test.

I guarantee you, I'd be saying exactly what I have said.  
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« Reply #67 on: November 22, 2000, 04:41:00 PM »
Yes, I would still be complaining no matter who was dragging our future through the mudpit of litigation. It disturbs me to think that our country has steadily moved in this direction. I'd like to see some figures for the number of lawsuits filed in courts nationwide for the last 20 years. I'm sure it would show a frightening trend.

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« Reply #68 on: November 22, 2000, 04:43:00 PM »
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« Reply #69 on: November 22, 2000, 08:28:00 PM »
Go on and say it, Gman.

We're all (mostly) thinking it too.

       
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« Reply #70 on: November 23, 2000, 12:03:00 AM »
Toad,

Why don't you tell me instead?

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« Reply #71 on: November 23, 2000, 08:41:00 PM »
F4, I only speak for myself here:

First I read this:

F4U: "The internet is great for two things. Online gaming and people who like to hide behind an anonymous computer screen and throw stones. You are the pencil neck geek in the car in the next lane that flips the bird and drives away. You are a coward....I'm just glad this puke lives far enough away from people so he doesn't hurt someone or get hurt. I guess it's a good thing Canada has gun control laws so losers like this stay at the bottom of food chain where they belong."

Then I remembered these from another thread:

Pyro:  (11/14/00) Regardless, check your flamethrowers at the door. The thing I hate about political discussions is that while they may start out as intellectual discussions, they rarely end that way. The Rush Limbaugh and James Carville wannabes flock to the argument like moths to a campfire and that's all your left with in the end, just a bunch of bickering demagogues spouting mindless propaganda. And even that doesn't really matter as long as it's kept civil among participants. But if it can't be kept civil, then it's not in our interest to host these discussions, so keep it civil.

F4U: (11/14/00)Even I can hardly stand the message boards these day's. It is turning friends into enemies and even more so, turning my relaxation into frustration. I am even ready to deal with more C-hog whining.

So please add another off topic thread just for political bantering so I can get back to the business of enjoying my spare time.


Lastly, I re-read this:

F4U: (11/21/00) That is hy·poc·ri·sy (h-pkr-s)
n., pl. hy·poc·ri·sies.
1.The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.


...and I just laughed out loud.

 



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« Reply #72 on: November 24, 2000, 07:13:00 AM »
Nice post, toad.

However, it is pointless to respond to F4UDOA as he can never stick to the issues.



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« Reply #73 on: November 24, 2000, 09:36:00 AM »
1776, they have a special dispensation. They don't have to stick to the issues...only their opposition does.  
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« Reply #74 on: November 24, 2000, 11:47:00 AM »
Erhm.... You were talking about F4 right? Why do you use the word "they"? I'm confused