Non USA players

[Bruv119]

Personally i like the new changes and I agree with HT's decision to split the arenas.  

However,  during GMT/Aussie hours there are some glaringly obvious problems.

1.  There arent enough players to fill the 3 arenas.
2.  People flock to where the numbers are.
3.  This always ends up as the late war arena.  

Question: why did all planes get re-enabled in the Late war arena?

to me this makes no sense as it is now exactly the same as the old MA and everyone will carry on flying there as before and ignore the EW, MW arenas.  Except the guys who want the new challenge and better dogfights.

I'm open to peoples views on how to get around this maybe have one arena with rolling planesets or forced EW,MW, LW arenas By map reset.  

Many people who fly these hours are getting seriously cheesed off...


Bruv
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[Clifra Jones]

Originally posted by Bruv119

Question: why did all planes get re-enabled in the Late war arena?


Bruv
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People wanted it.

[rogerdee]

you can say that again i love geting on and finding 100 people  shared over 3 arenas,even better when u go tom one  and it had 30 players  and  your side is still out numbered 3 to 1

[Bruv119]

Well clifra just leaves me puzzled  why split it into time specific planesets and then not stick to your guns about the whole change.
 

I guess its down to our community to ditch its association with chess pieces and switch to the side with no players to provide a fair fight with however many people in each arena  (thats if your actually looking for a fair fight and not score whoring).  The new ENY restrictions should make fighting  5 on 20 ok.


Bruv
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[hitech]

Bruv119: I agree that is an issue.

The problem to solve, obviously some people belive , or are having more fun flying early war,mid war, or late war.

Seems to me that the  style of play for them are out waying the need to be in one arena.

All I ask is you give it some more time.

I have some ideas on a comprimise at off peek times, but Im not totaly sure how the off peek times will settle out in the end.

I apoligize to the off peek players, because the recent change wasn't realy aimed at that time frame.

If you have ideas other than (turn it back to what it was) I would be glad to hear them.

HiTech

[Bruv119]

Thanks for replying hitech.  

Some players have suggested a rolling planeset with one MA this may be difficult to implement for obvious reasons.  (Constant ENY changes, perk rides etc)

The question i was trying to get at was if the late war arena was made late only this will hopefully encourage the more experienced player to go play EW or MW.  Whether this can be turned on and off for peak times i dont know.

All it needs is about 30 guys in EW or MW to make it interesting.  At the moment its more like  10, 10  and 80 in LW.   If the player numbers stay like that everyone will fly LW.  Any restrictions on where people can fly will just cause more aggro.

If we give it time and get anywhere near the levels of USA players i'm sure the current setup would work just fine.....

anyone else have any bright ideas?


Bruv
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[knuckels]

offer higher perkies for flying EW that may lead a few more your way bruv.......knuckels

[Sketch]

I am with you on this Bruv...

Live in Italy, well for about 45 more days, but anyways... Log on tonight and the is like 30 in EA, 57 in MA and 247 LA1 and 40 in LA2....
Start out in MA and enjoy the fights.  The numbers die out a bit so a squadie and I jump to the LA1 and all we get is hordes of 190's 109's and Tiffies..... boring.....  Oh well, I guess I know which arena to not go into.  Rams, Hoing, Vulching, and porking....  no fun...
Early and Mid Arena's are the best.  And when those numbers drop I notice alot of it is the EuroAsian guys... oh well, stateside here I come...
Perk the La7 and Spit 16!!!!  

[Bruv119]

do people really care about perks though knuckels?

Its the ones with thousands already that will most likely be in the EW due to finding a nice fight.

Just more concerned with the majority flying LW in my time zones.  The two main reasons I think they are is because they want to fly where everyone else is.  Or they NEED there comfort planes.  Hopefully over time they will disperse but i doubt it.  

One of the best ways to create a fight in the other arenas is to fly for the underdog regardless of chess piece.  I think I will start to follow this policy with my squad.  But others may want to do the same......

I would hate to see the mid arena to be populated by bomber/milkrunners just because they have no opposition.

Bruv
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[Bruv119]

Originally posted by Sketch
Log on tonight and the is like 30 in EA, 57 in MA and 247 LA1 and 40 in LA2

Those numbers are fine by me sketch still disproportionate (<--- is that a word)   would be nice to see some of those 287 guys filling up the EW,MW arenas.

My post was trying to highlight the earlier non usa times when the numbers are 100 or less total.  for example

10am GMT- 5pm GMT
5am EST- noon
aussie evenings

Obviously HT wants to please his biggest customer group but I would say AH is a global community.

Moving to America can't be the only option can it????


Bruv
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[bj229r]

Our squad (47 Ronin) jumped to nits in EW for squad night last night--(alas, I was out of town) we are all die-hard Rooks, but you have to make allowances now and then. I expect it would be kinda neat fighting against the guys I've been flyin with for 6-7 years

[Bruv119]

Well with the new hour change policy and the fact we can fly different countries in each arena  I hope more people follow your lead bj229r

The community can only become stronger if we all mix with each other a little more.  Rather than whining about hordes or ENY restrictions because your squad is stuck on the team with 40 more players MOVE.  

Simple.

Bruv
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[hogenbor]

Originally posted by bj229r
Our squad (47 Ronin) jumped to nits in EW for squad night last night--(alas, I was out of town) we are all die-hard Rooks, but you have to make allowances now and then. I expect it would be kinda neat fighting against the guys I've been flyin with for 6-7 years

It always appeared strange to me that people have loyality for a FICTIONAL country in a game. Yes, I know that people, whole squads even, have been marked traitors after switching sides to balance gameplay. Weird.

Anyway, the summer is ending so I have started playing a bit again. I have the numbers problem too, here in Yurop. With the small maps it isn't that much of a problem but it's a bit like the DA I guess, you fight the same guys over and over again and it's not really feasible to get anything organized. That gets boring too.

I have always been in favor of a rolling planeset, but the majority here seems to demand their favourite ride every time they play.

Don't have a solution, just curious how it will turn out.

[Rolex]

In a perfect world, filling the arenas would be the best solution for HTC and customers, rather than a technical solution. It's a pretty unique business where customer satisfaction increases by having more customers for customers to shoot at.

For every 100 US-based players, I don't think 70 non US-based players would be an unreachable ratio, for a variety of reasons.

You have enough on your plate right now and this isn't the type of idea you were asking for, so I think it's inappropriate to elaborate on something unsolicited.

I just can't think of a technical change that would solve it, other than having random AI aircraft to shoot at.

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by Bruv119

Just more concerned with the majority flying LW in my time zones.  The two main reasons I think they are is because they want to fly where everyone else is.  Or they NEED there comfort planes.  Hopefully over time they will disperse but i doubt it.  

Bruv
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  This is a very intriguing paragraph indeed.
 "Comfort Planes" is a very intriguing phrase as to its relativity.

  Every arena has its "comfort planes".

  Let me preface this reply for clarification as to where I stand on the change issue. I have only been against it from the start as to its possible effects on groups of players who have spent years growing close together while engaging in game play. It's a family kind of thing if you will.

  Having said that, let me say that I am all for players finding out what it is like to play the game the way I started out playing roughly 10 years ago. It was AirWarrior for SVGA right before AW for windows, followed by AWII, and then AWIII and so on. So the AH2 EW and MW is a very familiar feel for me. But I think we will be hard pressed to pull the larger majority outa their faster rides to experience the early rides if it means long slow flights to the fight and then back to base.

 Relative to the old MA with fast rides...the EW will certainly feel slow (boring.) to a lota folks. I personally don’t mind it too much, although I am not content to fly there on a regular basis.

 I guess what I am saying is this. If we can get the impatient generation to experience the "Fight" of the early rides without the boring flight getting to said fight, we might be able to start towards your goal.

 I think map design will go a long ways towards said goal. If I could design a map that I thought HTC would adopt for the EW I would in a heart beat.