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Offline Messiah

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« Reply #60 on: September 24, 2006, 02:44:59 AM »
you eeediots, we all know the BKs can't fly!  Stop beating a dead horse.
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« Reply #61 on: September 24, 2006, 08:45:35 AM »
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heya jaxxo, this should answer yours and spack-ack's questions.


 


Actually it didn't answer my question at all.  The question I posed to you was "what are the numbers of times you've shot down a BK compared to the numbers of times they've shot you down?".  Telling little anecdotes of how you cherry picked Leviathn one time or how you caught Jaxxo low and slow in a Spitfire V doesn't answer the question.  Seem to me to be a little bit of chest pounding on your part in a rather feeble attempt to pile on the BKs with the others on this thread.  Which begs the other question..."Why do you have such a hard on for the BKs?"  Did you try and join them and they rejected you?  Did Jaxxo spurn you?  Did Superdude kick you out of his bed?  Did Bojo fling poo at your for stealing his banana?  Or you just one of those that follow the mindless hord like typical sheep?


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« Reply #62 on: September 24, 2006, 08:54:57 AM »
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bat.. I don't know what your problem is..  yu can be upset with me on the BB or maybe another BK  no prob.. like you say.. it is just BS..  I don't post here much because it really is full of very sensitive guys...  My thousands of posts are allmost entirely in the Oclub where people aren't so wussie.  I have been posting here because of the changes...

I have never claimed to be more than mediocre at this...never was but... the fact that I will fight in the arena has made me learn.   I don't have to worry that I have to have an alt advantage or the best plane in the arena to maybe win more than I lose.

That is my point with the bops... they aren't getting better because a gang bang and fighting for scraps in the best planes in the game doesn'tr teach ya a thing.

The times I have seen you in the arena I have helped you...called 6 or shot people off ya.

I don't do duels because they don't interest me...  I want more of a random fight than the heavily scripted duel...  rarely do I see a fight in the MA that is much like a duel.  I mostly fight from a disadvantage in a slow lesser plane.   I do OK and I earn what I get.

What is my problem with the Bop's?

Simple..   they are not fun to be around and they whined the loudest when this all started...  I believe that they are gaming the squad limits.. there should never have been more than 32 of em...  I also think that THE RULE is a slap in the face to the community.

They claim every bish loves em... I don't know.. BK's have been flying bish and they sure seem to love us too...  I have gotten a dozen or more thank you's from bish players who I called six on or shot up a couple of the bad guys on em...

mars got good fights going with other countries and the bish who wanted to do so...  we left the Bop's who were ganging a field.  We "ditched" em.

sure seems bish (other than bop) were happy with us then?  Mars was sure liked when he got the fight away from BOp gameplay...

The bop are about base capture.. not winning the war... that is what they say.   I seen em do it.. they steamroll and if they interact with the community it is an accident.   they have no problem with 10 guys on one.

they aren't any worse than some others except for... THE RULE ...  it is as bad for them as for the community... they are the ones isolating themselves not me...  I have played for and against every chesspiece and find the game more for it not less.

they can't know community because they have THE RULE.  

I don't even care about em that much... never really heard about em till recently.. never fought one good enough that I bothered to see what squad he belonged to or... seen one when I was bish that was good enough to notice...  all I seen was a clump of em turning a fight into a gangbang or....

Worse... in the old MA....  it wasn't just them... they weren't even first... there were joint ops... they came along later... what they did was simply to add to the problem.. the problem was that big groups would milkrun and whorde undefended bases... they copied this crappy gameplay and we ended up with every country doing it.   it became gameplay.

It was lousy gameplay...

as for fighting them...  well.... 3 BK's beating 6 of theirs wouldn't prove much...  I think it is pretty much a given in any case... but... it wouldn't make anyone "right" in this arguement except in one small part of it..(they really don't get better being in that squad)

The arguement is that they ruin gameplay with their particular whorde behavior taking undefended or lightly defended bases.

They had their chance to showwhat good fighters they were in the old MA... they had the chance... We all seen the whordes of all the countries moving on undefended bases of the others all night long...  

Why didn't those whordes seek each other out?  They all did their best to avoid each other.

Their crying and pouting and threats at the beggining of this change made em a target....  like I said... never really heard of em before as a squad... we musta been hanging out in "different" crowds..

The tears and threats started it but....  THE RULE is what keeps the attention on em.  

falc claims he will try to balance things out...  I say he doesn't know what balance is...

To him.. balance is equal numbers in the countries and equal base captures.... to me.. and lots others.... balance is a balance in the fights.   I don't care if the numbers are 80 80 and 80 in the arena....

80 attacking undefended fields from each country isn't my kind of balance.   150 30 and 20 is perfect balance if there are fights with 15 guys from each side going on.

We will never agree with that.... falc will bring guys to "help" and unbalance the fights.

oh... you guys really don't want to see furball and stang and levi kill 6 or seven "better than 2/1 kd" bops do you?  I mean... seriously..

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« Reply #63 on: September 24, 2006, 09:06:57 AM »
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« Reply #64 on: September 24, 2006, 09:12:37 AM »
I give up. there is nothing i can post to repsond to this that hasnt been posted a bunch of times...

as for "the rule" the only person i see fixated on it in here is lazs himself...so again no way to get him to see that...

so hitech is right in his other post..there is no way to avoid the inevitable...but i think the inevitable is me realizing that some guys will never be happy no matter what others do, say or offer.

ill stay off the boards too...and a big thanks to Karaya and multiple BKs who contacted me personally in the arenas to offer their apologies and offer to "bury the hatchet"....im only too happy too...i thought was a really big gesture on their part and impressed me to no end:aok

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« Reply #65 on: September 24, 2006, 09:22:53 AM »
Sorry Falc i wont be able to participate in any duel.  I moved into my house last thursday and i don't have any internet.  I don't believe i'll have the net in the near future, my housemates don't want to fork out any cash to get it.  I've had to cancel my account, though soon as i get the net i'll be back. However you never know, there are a few grumbles about having to walk to uni to check emails....

I wouldn't say the bops are only about base capture.  I for one have little interest in capturing bases, i've never been put under pressure from anyone in the squad to do so either.  I fly with the bops (which i have done for maybe 4-5 years) because it's a non structered squad with its emphasis of having fun.  There is a very friendly atmosphere on squad and voice channel.  There are many bops who enjoy furballing, there also many that enjoy base taking, gving etc.

I've also no problem with the BK's, i have shotdown members of BKs lots of times, likewise i have been shotdown.  I'm sure there are people who fly for rooks/knits that can say a good word or two about me.
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« Reply #66 on: September 24, 2006, 09:26:52 AM »
I will.. and thanks falc.

I don't even know you so have nothing against you in any personal way.  I don't like what you are doing to the game but.... I guess you guys don't much like the way we play either.

I have never fought against or with you that I know of.  probly more likely now tho with the changes.

I think the changes are good.  If I don't like what you are doing to one arena I can now move to another.  

I would have no problem talking to you in person about any of this.... we wouldn't change each others minds but it would at least be interesting and one on one without our "support groups".    Would be fun and I hope...  reasonably civil.

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« Reply #67 on: September 24, 2006, 09:39:39 AM »
I've also no problem with the BK's, i have shotdown members of BKs lots of times, likewise i have been shotdown. I'm sure there are people who fly for rooks/knits that can say a good word or two about me.

Seeing that I am an "air mercenary" and fly for whatever country my little heart desires, I will say that I have always loved flying with or against you thrila ... utmost respect for you sir ... hope to see you back in AH sooner than later.
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« Reply #68 on: September 24, 2006, 09:48:23 AM »
ya thrila, you need to fly more cause i have lost my fear of the mossie:)

falc, though we have different view points at times i wanted to make sure you/and rest of bops, that it is nothing personal.  
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« Reply #69 on: September 24, 2006, 09:57:04 AM »
Thanks for the kind words from some.

I don't really want to get involved in this, but i would like to say - i dont recall anyone from the Blue Knights saying that we are the best in fighters.  We do have some very good individual players, but it is very rare that we fly as a squad.  More often than not we are spread over at least two countries trying to shoot one another down.  Saying that, i can recall sorties winging with a squaddie where we have racked up kills of 30+ between us, i am confident that a large number of the BK's have sufficent talent that any two of them could go out and do that - there are very few squadrons in game who have players that achieve it.

It is really other people's perception of our group that has made people think, that we think, that we are the best.  When we recruit, it is not on skill level, that is another mistake that some people make.  It is mostly on their personality and attitude towards the game, and a small part is down to whether they have pissed old man Lazs off or not.

It is not special if you shoot someone who you percieve to be very good down, its a game where people die hundreds of times a month, especially if you are the type of player to get in close and fight someone to gain your kills instead of killing from afar (picking). likelihood is that you will indeed shoot someone down if you put the hours in and go to where the big fights are.  The fact is that nearly every person in our squad does not care about getting shot down, just goes hand in hand with the style of fighting.

It all comes down to having fun.  One group's idea of having fun is to fight other cartoon planes in the air.  The other group's idea of fun is to bomb cartoon buildings to win the strategy war, it is inevitable that clashes will occur because of that, there is nothing that can be done to avoid it.
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« Reply #70 on: September 24, 2006, 09:59:39 AM »
In all honesty...

On Flying
The BKs have (had actually) a disproportionate percentage of "one percenters" in the squad, many of which were named by Bat (you left out Drex and Morph though). There's another teir of ten percenters, and then there's the rest of us. I'd place myself at about 20 in a 3v3 or 5v5. But make that about a 30 in the DA 1v1.

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Pretty much the same, but the names change somewhat. :D

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« Reply #71 on: September 24, 2006, 10:09:27 AM »
falc & laz.

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« Reply #72 on: September 24, 2006, 10:15:04 AM »
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hehe, who's the bookie, I wanna bet few $$$


Amen.

One of you broke-asses step up and lay down a few Bens to settle it one and for all.

With all the "fight" and "scared" rhetoric, the chest thumping bravado about being a more accomplished joy stick jerker... back it up with a little cash.

Edit: unless you're scared of losing face and money, of course, then decline.
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« Reply #73 on: September 24, 2006, 10:51:38 AM »
The WarDogs will join the BK's for this fun....even tho it would not be much of a fight, at least it would be a fight...don't see too many of those around these days.

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I have no problem dueling laz...happy to oblige..dunno what it will prove that i dont already know..but sometimes da will cool people off and get them talking...so im up for that.

and batfink..i can field 10 bops who will give the BKs a fun run for their money....pure wingman furball koth style play..we practice this quite a bit for fun on boring nights..here are a few

Falconwing
Kite777
Thrila
Viper215
Matrix
Dog398/slycer
99Mecinf
Inomin8
BushLt
Rain000
Mailbox
Choperen
 
(BTW BoPs i used the names of guys who have greater then 2:1 k/d right now in fiters...i know alot of you guys are just as good or better...but i just wantged to put some names out..we could duel off for spots anyway)

dear lute you missed my wing..we have 6 wings...its called "BoPs are bad Citizens" right now so is not clustered witht he other 5 on squad page.

i actually think this would be a great deal of fun  maybe in a few months when the bad feelings have subsided...i bet a lot of other squads would like the chance to have these matches as well!!! leave the egos at the door and have some fun squad style..awesome idea sir lute!!!:aok

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« Reply #74 on: September 24, 2006, 11:56:55 AM »
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bat.. I don't know what your problem is..  yu can be upset with me on the BB or maybe another BK  no prob.. like you say.. it is just BS..  I don't post here much because it really is full of very sensitive guys...  My thousands of posts are allmost entirely in the Oclub where people aren't so wussie.  I have been posting here because of the changes...

 


no one is upset lazs, least of all you or me man, its all a joke, right? :aok
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