Wishful thinking....my idea on the game

[viper215]

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by J_A_B
Given the sheer size of the AH sectors (25 miles), I'd say the bases are too far apart.  If built to a smaller scale, that sort of map and ruleset has a lot of potential.  Charon compared that to an AW map (and I believe Dan may have been inspired somewhat by AW), but keep in mind AW sectors were only about 12 miles across.

With the advent in AH2 of multiple arenas with smaller player populations and (in some) much slower aircraft, the use of smaller distances between airfields is as important as ever.

I'm aware that the image posted is a "concept" image; in a production arena I'd also expect to see some differentiation between country coastlines and such so they don't look quite so obviously mirrored.

I also liked the idea of placing three N fields in the central section instead of one.

J_A_B

That's best guess on size.  I was really only trying to illustrate the idea.  I want bases closer, but the biggest thing for me is to change to goal from complete take the map land grab which to me seems to encourage attacking empty fields.

If the goal for all sides was to take and hold something like the Neutral fields, it would seem to push the players towards fighting each other and would involve both the base takers and the dogfighters.

I wish one of the good map makers would take a shot at it.

[Raptor]

Only problem is, as of right now we can't have neutral fields

[Dichotomy]

can this be fixed?

The dynamics are very interesting

[hubsonfire]

HT and company could do anything, but the effects on gameplay are kind of an unknown. They seem to give a good deal of thought to the unforeseen effects when considering new ideas.

I have to say, I think this is an interesting one.

[Arcades057]

Looks a lot like the old AW map.  I likes.

[E25280]

Love the concept.  Hope it can be implemented.

[straffo]

Look like a mix between DeathMatch and CTF (capture the flag)
good idea

[Delirium]

I like having the idea of fields that don't affect the 'war win', heck, if it was implemented it would make our current maps alot more viable.

In each corner of each map you could make a few fields not count in the reset equation, and have an early war, mid war, and late war furball zone. Then the rest of the landgrabbers could do their own thing outside the box.

[FALCONWING]

Ok..do a search...i have been suggesting maps with uncapturable fields for ever..thank you so much for putting one down in a map form and getting this attention!!!

limit number of capturable bases..have uncapturable fiter town and tank towns for quickie action for guys who dont have alot of time to fly.   NO RESET!!!! instead rotate 4-5 INTERESTING maps with varying terrain and whoever occupies the most capturable bases "wins" at tiemof rotation.

real strat targets please (yes i mean LA7, spit 16 factories) etc that give the strat guys other interesting trgts besides base taking...(i.e. further you hit a trgt behind enemy lines ..more points for the damage!)

oh and while im dreaming....fiter town needs more then 1 field apiece..maybe 2 parralel to support each other vs pesky vulchers etc.  do i hear unkillable ack

and..if im not out of line...raise the caps please?

[SuperDud]

Originally posted by FALCONWING
Ok..do a search...i have been suggesting maps with uncapturable fields for ever..thank you so much for putting one down in a map form and getting this attention!!!

limit number of capturable bases..have uncapturable fiter town and tank towns for quickie action for guys who dont have alot of time to fly.   NO RESET!!!! instead rotate 4-5 INTERESTING maps with varying terrain and whoever occupies the most capturable bases "wins" at tiemof rotation.

real strat targets please (yes i mean LA7, spit 16 factories) etc that give the strat guys other interesting trgts besides base taking...(i.e. further you hit a trgt behind enemy lines ..more points for the damage!)

oh and while im dreaming....fiter town needs more then 1 field apiece..maybe 2 parralel to support each other vs pesky vulchers etc.  do i hear unkillable ack

and..if im not out of line...raise the caps please?

I agree with.... a BOP:eek:

[bozon]

Very interesting concept Guppy - especially for the low numbers areanas.
I'd love to see this put to the test.

Only problem is, as of right now we can't have neutral fields

OK then we can work within the system. Try this instead:

double fields:
The "N" fields are made of 2 close towns with a maproom in each. Lets say the two N countries are bish and knits and so, at reset, one town will be bish and the other knit. These are in practice bases with no vehicles or planes enabled, just a town.

acks:
Maybe setting up some manned acks there would be fun - lots of manned acks and auto acks inside the towns. This will make high alt carpet bombing the best way to clear both acks and buildings. Fighter strifing when cities are fully up would be madness, but they can clear out what's left after bombings. Making the two towns close next to each other means that you can't hide in your acks when the other town is shooting at you - players can ack-hug only when you have both towns.
I hope this will encourage a massive high alt bombing campaign as the first stage and sending in the JABOs only as a second stage to kill the last buildings and hunt GV.

triple tank town
The center island will have 3 of those "capture towns" with spawn points for GV around them comming from farther back V-fields or bases. That way, attacking non-capture fields is important to stop GV assults. This is in practice a triple "tank town".

The down times for acks and buildings would have to be looked into.

[Hajo]

Guppy very good idea.  Reminds me of AW with some great alterations.

Well thought out and presented.  Like it!

[Max]

Hitech, Guppy's idea is very close to what I was suggesting a few days back.

Great work Guppy - hope it can be brought to fruition. Let me know if I can help you out in any way.

[scottydawg]

Very interesting idea, I'd scale the map grids down about 75% for mid and late, 50% for Early to compensate for aircraft speeds.

Randomize the terrain and base placement a little to make it seem more natural, you could put the bomber bases closer if you upped the alt of the terrain around them..

not sure about the jet bases though... maybe one near HQ instead of 3.

All in all a very interesting concept.  Thanks Guppy.