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Offline Yeager

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« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2006, 01:47:20 PM »
Well, in general liberal is used almost interchangeably with Democrat.
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Thats because most democrats are liberal :rolleyes:
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« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2006, 01:56:32 PM »
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Looks like you don't know the definition of "Anarchist". I don't see "pure democracy" anywhere.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Anarchist

1. a person who advocates or believes in anarchy or anarchism.  
2. a person who seeks to overturn by violence all constituted forms and institutions of society and government, with no purpose of establishing any other system of order in the place of that destroyed.  
3. a person who promotes disorder or excites revolt against any established rule, law, or custom.


What about the definition of anarchy ?

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a theory that regards the absence of all direct or coercive government as a political ideal and that proposes the cooperative and voluntary association of individuals and groups as the principal mode of organized society.
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« Reply #32 on: September 27, 2006, 04:23:15 PM »
Denounce the traitor, then you can join the cause.

 

It's great life in the red guards! -- you get a set of clothes and a little book to wave



And you can beat up everyone who disagrees with you.
Yeah baby, Communism rules! :aok
We knew you Republicans would come around eventually.
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« Reply #33 on: September 27, 2006, 04:53:25 PM »
Wait a minute!

Is that you Udie?
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« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2006, 05:50:23 PM »
Even the reds get to defend themselves, dead.
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« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2006, 06:20:53 PM »
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Originally posted by someone American fascists love to ignore
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
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« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2006, 06:46:11 PM »
Very nice quote, Funked....

At the same time, don't you think that there ought to be certain gaurds against the possibility of any and every whacko out there taking the law into his hands for the sake of his own personal agenda-- even if it is an agenda that he pursues under the guise of social advancement?

Where and how do you strike a balance between an oppressive fascist state and a nation that is doing nothing more insidious than defending itself?
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« Reply #37 on: September 27, 2006, 07:29:58 PM »
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What about the definition of anarchy ?
You seem to have ignored definition 1, 2 and 4.

I guess you liked that one best?
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« Reply #38 on: September 27, 2006, 07:32:42 PM »
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Very nice quote, Funked....

At the same time, don't you think that there ought to be certain gaurds against the possibility of any and every whacko out there taking the law into his hands for the sake of his own personal agenda-- even if it is an agenda that he pursues under the guise of social advancement?

Where and how do you strike a balance between an oppressive fascist state and a nation that is doing nothing more insidious than defending itself?


How do you correllate this to me having a personal agenda?  Have you so quickly forgotten the attacks on september 11th?  Madrid Bombings...London rail and bus bombings?  Indonesia? ect...  Whether you like it or not, there is terror in the world, and its something we all must face...

This guy is prolly just young and dumb, and using extreme rhetoric that means nothing...999 out of 1000 times that will be the case...But in the unlikelyhood that what this kid is saying is actually real, can you take the risk when if this is just more then rhetoric, people could die?  Would you want your family around this guy?  What would you say, knowing he was vocal about his views and intentions, after he actually carried something out?  OOPS?

I have no apologys to anyone when a person, and a group, who's ideology is hatred and blame against the US Government, and US Servicemen, tell's me that suicide bombings against US Serviceman, and israeli women and children is justified, and that he believes that himself, and everyone else in the world is capable of this, I will not sit idle and quietly...

It amazes me that some of you can defend this behavior
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« Reply #39 on: September 27, 2006, 07:34:29 PM »
And by no means am I taking the law into my own hands?  Am I going up to this guy and slapping him into cuffs?  no...

What I am doing is exactly what law enforcement encourages...alert them, and let them investigate, and if they feel there is grounds to pursue, then so be it...
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« Reply #40 on: September 27, 2006, 07:45:56 PM »
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How do you correllate this to me having a personal agenda?  Have you so quickly forgotten the attacks on september 11th?  Madrid Bombings...London rail and bus bombings?  Indonesia? ect...  Whether you like it or not, there is terror in the world, and its something we all must face...


I wasn't talking about you, Cav, the personal agenda was the one belonging to your 'anarchist'... My point was that all his political rantings are most likely not motivated to truly benefit society, but to release some sort of internal angst, and thus, are self-serving. I could be wrong, but it would seem that anyone who decides to let anger guide his actions is less of a visionary and more of a whack-job, for lack of a better term. Nowhere in my post did I make, or imply, any mention of you or your actions. I was only trying to get Funked to propose a balance between a much-feared police state and a state where actions, no matter how anti-social and mis-guided, are free and unchecked. A balance between two extremes, if you will.

As much as I fail to understand anyone who, in this day, can justify placing all their eggs into one political basket (ie, being either a devoted repub or dem), I had no intention of touching you or your leanings.

No, I haven't forgotten 9/11.

Apply some gray matter before jumping to conclusions next time.
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« Reply #41 on: September 27, 2006, 08:10:52 PM »
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They legitimately (sp) believe that all government is evil, and must be overthrown...They told me too my face that the white house, congress and senate are the evil ones...the terrorist are the good guys...And all of this being said by them, not because they want to provoke me, but because they truely believe this...


While I agree that this givernment should probably be overthrown and both parties thrown out and replaced by people with dignity and at least some resemblence of honesty and honor.

I wont agree the terrorists are the good guys
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« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2006, 08:13:25 PM »
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Wow, just wow.
Vigilante thought police
If this Cav's typical of the new generation raised under Bushism, god help us.  Gonna make 1984 look like a picnic.



Well,
If they arent planning on "doing anything wrong then they have nothing to worry about" Now do they?
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« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2006, 08:16:03 PM »
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And by no means am I taking the law into my own hands?  Am I going up to this guy and slapping him into cuffs?  no...

What I am doing is exactly what law enforcement encourages...alert them, and let them investigate, and if they feel there is grounds to pursue, then so be it...


there ya go.
As long as they arent guilty of any wrongdoing or planning, or encouraging any wrongdoing. Then they wont have any problems
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« Reply #44 on: September 27, 2006, 08:22:50 PM »
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While I agree that this givernment should probably be overthrown and both parties thrown out and replaced by people with dignity and at least some resemblence of honesty and honor.

I wont agree the terrorists are the good guys


Step 1, Fire congress and the senate, replace all members of both houses ( democrat and republican) with common working class people that don't have millions of dollars.
Step 2,  If they become corrupt like the ones we have now, fire and replace them too.
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