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Offline Angry Samoan

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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2006, 09:26:42 PM »
Alot of lurkers voicing the word.
Hope it gets noticed.

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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2006, 09:30:27 PM »
9:20 US prime time.....

EW
Bish 6 players
Knights 27 players
Rooks 21 players

MW
Bish 68
Knights 45
Rooks 43

LW maxed....................

Isn't the LW the old MA? Fly anything.

LW2 88

Seems like to me anyway....The OLD MA is alive and kicking.....while the EW is floundering.

MW arena IMHO could be the same as the LW if the LA7's  , Spit 16's and the type were perked in the LW arena.....whatever amount I don't care....


The Guys in te EW arena cant find what they are looking for and the LA7 drivers are happy as can be.

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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2006, 10:59:25 PM »
I'm mildly annoyed how everyone in the LWA's are flagged as a HOing La/Spixteen dweeb.

I fly the late war, but the only thing I ever touch ElGays and Spixteens with is a hail of fire from my D-Hog's Brownings.
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« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2006, 11:49:25 PM »
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Because the La7, Niki, Spit16 and D-9's are the crutches for the weak.


It all relitive...some of the "Vets" have found their crutch planes in the EW and MW i the first two days. ;)


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I'm mildly annoyed how everyone in the LWA's are flagged as a HOing La/Spixteen dweeb.
 


Especially if the flag barer is an uber plane pilot to begin with.

(was checking player stats today...very interesting to see how many of those complaining that lala pilots have no skill spend over 50% of their time in lalas. :D)

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9:20 US prime time.....

EW
Bish 6 players
Knights 27 players
Rooks 21 players

MW
Bish 68
Knights 45
Rooks 43

LW maxed....................

Isn't the LW the old MA? Fly anything.

LW2 88

Seems like to me anyway....The OLD MA is alive and kicking.....while the EW is floundering.

MW arena IMHO could be the same as the LW if the LA7's  , Spit 16's and the type were perked in the LW arena.....whatever amount I don't care....


The Guys in te EW arena cant find what they are looking for and the LA7 drivers are happy as can be.

Sad


The numbers in each arena seem to indicate this dont they?

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« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2006, 12:04:37 AM »
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I'm not happy


Gotcha. ;)

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« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2006, 12:29:16 AM »
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Because the La7, Niki, Spit16 and D-9's are the crutches for the weak.


I wonder if this has ever been tried:

Limit the number of available aircraft.
Say, no more than 20 LA-7s in the LW arena
at any one time for example.

and just to make it mooooore interesting.

If you get killed, you might lose your
plane in the interim between dying
and respawning if someone else grabs
it before you get back onto the runway.

Wouldn't that be an interesting way
to stem the gangbanging with uber
planes.  Its the reason I never go to
the LWA.  Haven't been in there since
the change.

I've found dogfight nirvana in the EWA. :)

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« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2006, 12:31:36 AM »
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So if that is a fact then removing those planes should distribute the population across all arenas.

Do you really believe that would happen?

Also note that the planes sets are relative:

in the EWA the Hurri IIc / Spit 9 = La7 / Spit 16 respectively.


The Hurri IIC ain't that tough.
I kill em all the time with my P-40E...
a plane I could NEVER fly in the MA without
quickly getting ganged.
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« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2006, 01:10:25 AM »
I see some still haven't gotten the point of my initial post.   :rofl
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« Reply #23 on: September 29, 2006, 01:31:58 AM »
If i were the king, I'd do somthin like this

EW- Rolling Plane Set  Arena 39' to '43 (Not Axis- Allied)
MA1- Big Map Rotation, All Planes enabled
MA2- Small Map Rotation, All Planes enabled
lose the AvA, they will have to get thier fix in scenarios and RPS Arena

DA and TA should be put together somehow,
that new TA map is sweet, but due to the settings
99% of it doesnt get used
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« Reply #24 on: September 29, 2006, 02:25:04 AM »
Numbers arent everything.

all it needs  is 30+  ppl in EW or MW  and you can find the same if not more action than the old MA.

upping the caps of the LW arena wont solve anything HT is trying to progress not take steps backwards.  By making things interesting and giving you more choice.  Why you all cry about the LW arena is a joke.

Get your squaddies into the EW or MW arenas.
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« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2006, 02:56:59 AM »
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in the EWA the Hurri IIc / Spit 9 = La7 / Spit 16 respectively.
 it is true that the weak will always take the path of least resistance and there is plenty of weakness to go around the woobiecane does not equal the LA7 by any stretch of the imagination and the spit9 is perked I believe so you are wrong on both counts.  

there are some of us who are learning to prevail in other rides and to make them truly shine against these formidable models.  while the woobiecane is modelled some what incorrrectly in AHII it is certainly beatable especially since most of the players that select that model are very unskilled.  

I appreciate the change tremendously, I get to use my favorite rides from that conflict against equally matched models.  I have seldomly ventured away from EWA, every time I log on I'm able to take a 202 and go find a good fight with little trouble.  prior to the change I would take the 202 and have to fight against woobicanes spixteens and La7s, that was no fun.

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« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2006, 02:58:16 AM »
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Numbers arent everything.

all it needs  is 30+  ppl in EW or MW  and you can find the same if not more action than the old MA.

upping the caps of the LW arena wont solve anything HT is trying to progress not take steps backwards.  By making things interesting and giving you more choice.  Why you all cry about the LW arena is a joke.

Get your squaddies into the EW or MW arenas.
ssssh!!!!!  don't listen to this man stay in the LWA.

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« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2006, 03:27:24 AM »
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It's not all negitive no more freekin LA-7's and Spit-16's ganging you every time you up.... In the other arenas that is, I really don't see why we don't have more people in the MWA good plane set all around and fair fights....  I can truthfully say I have not uped a single plane in the LWA after they changed things.  Though I do miss the F4U-4 a bit but I'll trade that for the lack of LA7's and Spit16's in the other arenas.  I sometimes think that there are so many in the LWA because so many need the cruches of those uber planes. I know that this statement might not be totally acurate but it's just the way it seems..:)
Flayd, I have to disagree 100%. Not all of us BOPS want to fly a Hurri2C vs a 109F all day everyday. I could always find 4 or 5 squadmates minimum on channel at any hour on any day or night. Now, I haven't flown with more than 2 squadmates for a week. I can't remember a dry spell that long in over three years. That says something about the popularity of the new setup to me. Squadmates are my friends and I want to fly with my friends or I would'nt be in a squad to start with.

I don't see the late war planes as crutches. I enjoy fighting against them and gaining perks when I kill them in a lesser aircraft. Check my stats, I rarely fly perkbirds unless I'm blowing them in a 262. Most of the time you'll find me flying a wooden gascan that turns on a quarter and will drop with a few pings from a .303(Mossie) while taking on those uber LaLa's and Spits. I'll fly the lesser aircraft with the higher ENY and take the money and run knowing I just owned the other guy or fight to the death against him and his friends while they wonder who the heck is this guy thats so hard to kill. It's all about who knows that pilot stuff and who does'nt, IMHO.

Being limited to a T34 and M16 does wonders for the ground game, too. I can't believe the Germans didn't have Panzers at the start of WWII. Did Poland surrender to JU-87's?

In the EWA and MWA it's all horde or vacant except for the milkrunners. I never had a problem with LaLa's and Spit16's in the past, altho some others whined about them. The problem is not the planes, it's the imbalance of enemy in the arena. Shrinking the arena does nothing to address this.

I remember AW had a limit of planes that could up from a field or zone. It makes sense historically and practicly. An airfield can only hold so many planes and receive so many in resupply. Stopping the resupply of replacement aircraft is a logical solution. Keep the arena numbers high, but force the players to up from different bases or zones. Change grunt training and AA factories to fighter and bomber factories. Allow resupply of factories by goon. They are basicly useless now except for milkrunner points. Neither really affects gameplay or reset outcome as is. Make strats strategic!

Opening a new arena when one hits 250 accomplishes absolutely nothing other than to put you in a vacant arena prime for milkrunners. Who knows, maybe these suggestions won't work here. But it's a far sight better than a 3 way arena with a 250 player limit setup we have now. This game has gotten way too touchy feely like a politically correct affirmative action program gone horribly, horribly wrong.:confused:
« Last Edit: September 29, 2006, 03:57:52 AM by rpm »
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« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2006, 03:34:54 AM »
what this change has done as RPM points out is exposed the gaps in the model base.  if the game is to continue to grow one of the necessary changes will have to be the addition of new models to flesh out the arenas.  there will be a need for new early war planes as well as armored and support vehicles.

who knows we may see a matilda or a sherman in the near future as well as earlier marks of the panzer.

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« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2006, 06:18:17 AM »
Karaya, you had a point in your first post? :huh  

The EW seems to be lacking, if you log in and jump to the side with low numbers you quickly realize that the other two sides are attacking each other and there is no one for the third side to fight...or too far away to make it worthwhile to fly there.

I've had some good times in the EW and I've also logged off after flying for 10 minutes and finding no one that will fight and being stuck on that country now for an hour.

I was looking last night at some of the guys who say to switch the "chesspeice" side in other threads and find it highly amusing that the ones who cry about other people not switching to even it up rarely make any changes themselves :lol

The game is becoming even more boring for me since the changes than it was before them, I have flown all 3 arenas and found no joy in mudville.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2006, 06:38:13 AM by DaPup »