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Offline Yeager

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« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2006, 01:44:23 PM »
I think we are experiencing the "too many rats packed into a box" scenario.
Humans are overpopulating and thus nature is kicking in the insanity trigger where selected humans start going insane and killing other humans for no sustainable reason.

Asteroid? Earth here, where are you :rolleyes:
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« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2006, 01:52:54 PM »
It looks now like this guy was trying to copycat the pedophile that killed the girl a couple of weeks ago in the other school standoff.  Apparently he had tools and supplies to facilitate that, and admitted it in one of his notes.

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« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2006, 02:07:02 PM »
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Sam, just a nit, but politicians are not about solving problems.  They are more about finding ways to put bandaids on issues.  Take a look at anything a politician does and you will find it is not about attacking the root cause of the issue, but rather a reactionary measure to cope with the result of the issue.


That's pretty much my point, Scuzzy - I should have said it better. They *claim* to solve issues so that you'll vote for them. I'm looking for a candidate who's platform is doing as little as he can get away with and being an obstruction to others who are trying to "solve problems".

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It is rather alarming that the number of these types of shootings has skyrocketed in recent years.


Um, define "skyrocketed in recent years."  Kinda like shark attacks skyrocketed last year. Only they didn't. If you mean fanatical media coverage has gotten worse, making the problem seem worse, yes. But in reality school violence is is pretty steady over time. Statistically, school shootings resulting in death is such a minor issue  it's barely worth discussing. Here's an objective report from after Columbine - the last time people went nuts over school safety.

If you're really interested in keeping children safe, let's talk about backyard swimming pools.
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« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2006, 02:12:28 PM »
sam.. perhaps I am too much of an optomist but I have heard talk of allowing at least the principal to be armed and... the trend seems to be toward allowing armed guards in schools... these schools are not targets.

I also agree that the politicians are not about solutions but about what appears to be an attempt at one.  

I do not agree that a politician would get crucified if he suggested arming qualified teachers.   I think that parents everywhere are asking that some protection be provided for their children.

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« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2006, 02:33:40 PM »
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I do not agree that a politician would get crucified if he suggested arming qualified teachers.   I think that parents everywhere are asking that some protection be provided for their children.

lazs


I just don't have any confidence that a politician expressing this as an option would get any kind of a fair treatment in the national media.

Maybe someone smart will tone it down a bit and simply suggest that if every classroom still had a nice, hefty wooden paddle the teachers would have a fighting chance against a gunman stepping through their doorway.:D
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« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2006, 02:44:38 PM »
Laz,

It doesn't matter if "they" let the principle be armed or not. I figure that just about all of them would refuse it anyhow.


I wondered how long it would be before beetle showed up again. Just like clockwork.
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« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2006, 02:52:25 PM »
sam... I agree that the liberal media would do it's best to make the politician look deranged for suggesting that schools protect their students.

I just feel that parents and citizens might just brush em off.

I think that when it was suggested that sky marshals be reactivated that the general sentiment of the liberal media was to try to paint it as dangerous and insane.   Polls showed that they were not in touch with the public.

Imagine if we had vouchers and the private schools all advertised that most of their teachers were trained concealed carry permit holders and were mostly armed at all times.

I would bet that they would increase enrollment not decrease it.

I am not sure that the present lot of public school teachers are worth saving tho.   If the cease to exist when vouchers come in then that may be for the best.

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« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2006, 04:35:56 PM »
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Laz,

It doesn't matter if "they" let the principle be armed or not. I figure that just about all of them would refuse it anyhow.


I wondered how long it would be before beetle showed up again. Just like clockwork.



Yeah he should take the handle roach, seems he is just as nasty and hard to get rid of.
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« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2006, 03:09:50 AM »
Wow he did come crawling out from under his rock.
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« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2006, 08:55:52 AM »
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Originally posted by Samiam Um, define "skyrocketed in recent years."  Kinda like shark attacks skyrocketed last year. Only they didn't. If you mean fanatical media coverage has gotten worse, making the problem seem worse, yes. But in reality school violence is is pretty steady over time. Statistically, school shootings resulting in death is such a minor issue  it's barely worth discussing. Here's an objective report from after Columbine - the last time people went nuts over school safety.

If you're really interested in keeping children safe, let's talk about backyard swimming pools. [/B]


I wasn't referring to school shootings in particular.  I was referring to people "snapping" and going to some random public place and shooting it up.  Maybe it's just me, but these kind of things seem to be happening more often than they used to.  I don't remember these types of incidents happening in the '60s and '70s...  During the '80s, it seemed like it happened quite a lot (once a year?)...  I blame MTV...
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« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2006, 09:01:45 AM »
nutballs tend to be copycats.  they go in cycles.  for a while it was skyjacking.

You guys remember skyjacking?  seems you couldn't go a month without one for a while... all nutjobs and all copycats.

the media plays into this scenerio by giving the nutjob his fame.... it is sickening the way they dwell on this nutters life allmost.... lovingly... they spend allmost no time on the victims.

If the nutjob were to be analized as being effeminate and gay or whatever on national tv every time one  happened... there would be less copycats.

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Offline Samiam

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« Reply #41 on: October 04, 2006, 09:15:57 AM »
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I wasn't referring to school shootings in particular.  I was referring to people "snapping" and going to some random public place and shooting it up.  Maybe it's just me, but these kind of things seem to be happening more often than they used to.  I don't remember these types of incidents happening in the '60s and '70s...  During the '80s, it seemed like it happened quite a lot (once a year?)...  I blame MTV...


Statistically, this is more perception than reality. Again, I blame 24hr news media who have no incentive to excercise discretion. Heck, based on paying attention to the news you'd think amercians mysteriously dissappearing in Aruba was an epidemic if you weren't paying very close attention.

In the 60's and 70's, national TV news was limited to 1/2 hour per day and there was a war, and oil crisis, and a horrible economy to report on. If some nutjob walked shooting into a public placed and killed two people somewhere in Idaho, it might have gotten 30sec of play on the 6:00 news. Today the same nut will get non-stop 24/7 coverage for three weeks.

But it's hard to blame the media when this is obviously the news that people want.
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« Reply #42 on: October 04, 2006, 05:48:43 PM »
I'm not sure about other schools, but mine has (or had, I haven't seen him this year) an armed police officer on campus.  It's not in the ghetto, or slums, or anything like that.  Behind the school are houses with very high market value as far as I know.  Put one or two police officers in schools at all time, trained, certified police officers.
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« Reply #43 on: October 04, 2006, 07:46:07 PM »
See Rule #16
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« Reply #44 on: October 04, 2006, 08:22:31 PM »
Pongo,

You are the kewl.

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