Author Topic: Me-262 bug (WARNING!: May Contain Whinning!) (Read 1627 times)

Reynolds · « **on:** October 05, 2006, 03:45:44 AM »

Alright. This is me venting and being a whiney baby. If you are too upset by that, leave now. This evening I was flying a 262 for the rooks. I flew for quite some time, and didnt see any enemies, so I returned to base. On the way home, I stopped by a friendly airfield to investigate a flash. There were two friendliess airborne fighting of a P-47N. I dove on the 47N once, but he turned away. I dove again, but missed. I was currently at 200 indicated, seeing as he was the only enemy anywhere nearby, and I was planning on landing after that anyway, and the base was right under me. I dove on final time, but decided to pull up and not engage. I was approx. 1.5-2.0K AGL, and 1.5 above and behind the enemy, at approx. 220-250 indicated. As soon as I applied backpreassure to the stick, I was in the tower. The P-47 pilot received credit for the kill. I went back to that base and asked the two friendlies who were approx. 800 meters from me when I died if they had seen anything. THey said no, nothing at all. I then went "WTF" over the 200. The P-47 pilot and I then had a conversation. He didnt know how I died either, and we summarized he got a proxy kill because he received no points for it. He had no idea what happened either.

Lets review, so as not to have people ignoring things I have already said:
When I died, the following is what I remember:

Altitude (AGL): 1.5-2.0 Kilometers
Speed(Ind): 220-250 Km/h
Nearest enemy distance: 1.5 Kilometers
Enemy orientation in relation to my aircraft: Below, in front
My Weapons status: Safed. Not firing

I pulled up and the second I did, to modify a very annoying comercial: "Bam, and the perks are gone"

So, im rather tweaked. about 190 perks down the drain, im left with only 60, and I have no idea what happened, nor does anyone else. I am not complaining at the pilot, he was very polite, and didnt even fire at me. I am not complaining at HTC, its not their problem. Im just complaining in general, and trying to desive a scheme to get those points back.

Allow me to apologise in advance for any vulching I will be responsible for over the next few weeks, as I am very desperate.

Geary420 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 05, 2006, 05:56:44 AM »

Do you have film?

Reynolds · « **Reply #2 on:** October 05, 2006, 06:16:10 AM »

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Originally posted by Geary420
Do you have film?

I wish. That was the first thing I said over the 200, "If only I was recording..."

stephen · « **Reply #3 on:** October 05, 2006, 07:46:47 AM »

everyone wants film..., heck No idea usualy when i die in a 262 it has nothing to do with glitches and everything to do with trees,and bushes, and bishes...

AKDogg · « **Reply #4 on:** October 05, 2006, 08:14:19 AM »

Sounds like to me when u pulled up u pulled to many G's and blew up. Prossibly your stick could be spiking to that would cause that.

Krusty · « **Reply #5 on:** October 05, 2006, 10:09:43 AM »

Nope. I know for a fact you pull too many Gs you just rip your wings off. Maybe all the way to the wing root, but you won't just pop into the tower.

Reynolds, why are you listing things in km/h and km alt? I'm pretty sure you mean 1.5k to 2k FEET (2,000m alt is about 6,000 feet), and I'm sure you mean 220-250mph, because I think the 262 barely flies at 220km/h (that's about landing speed, it seems!)

Krusty · « **Reply #6 on:** October 05, 2006, 10:21:00 AM »

As a side note, a few squaddies and I were in LWA and we were running a few ops to distract the enemy from the main frontline. We hit a port, then a field, only our goon got pegged. So we're trying to provide top cover in (get this) two or three Me262s while a couple of us sneak goons in. Only we're close to HQ, surprise surprise, and they have a Me163 trying to dogfight us. That, and some spits and the like. Actually, I recall a hurr1 trying to ho my 262 at least twice before he gave up.

Anyways, I blow a couple of PERFECT shots (my aim sucks) and I'm dogfighting (yes, dogfighting) with the 163 when BAM -- there go my wingtips.

Show me ONE freaking example of a 262 that lost both its wingtips because it pulled 3 damn Gs! JUST ONE! If you can show me a wartime picture of a 262 that lost its wingtips because it pulled "too hard" (bah! 3Gs is not hard at all dammit!), then I vow I will never complain about the damn 262 wingtips in AH ever again. JUST SHOW ME ONE!

Anyways, back to the story

So I'm doing 300 or less mph at about 5k or so (fairly low) and rip my wingtips off and end up dogfighting a 163 with rudder only inputs. The sad part is that I out manuvered him (even forcing and overshot). After a few minutes I think he gave up or ran out of gas. I made the long flight home with my fingers on the J and L keys, trying to stabilize the autolevel.

How is this relevant? Well, it's a 262 mission with bad results

Wolfala · « **Reply #7 on:** October 05, 2006, 11:46:29 AM »

I've had instances where friendly auto AAA has taken me back to the tower. Were you running around your base or a friendly train by any chance?

Wolf

Major Biggles · « **Reply #8 on:** October 05, 2006, 12:34:26 PM »

yup, sounds like an unlucky puffy ack hit to me reynolds, too bad

just fly some high eny planes for a little while, you'll get 190 perks back in 5-6 sorties

Krusty · « **Reply #9 on:** October 05, 2006, 12:53:26 PM »

The days of 80-perk sortie landings are gone, since the arena reformat.

Reynolds · « **Reply #10 on:** October 05, 2006, 04:04:19 PM »

Yes, I was RIGHT over e friendly base, but too low for puffy ack, and auto ack I beleive had just been porked by the 47, because I didnt see any firing, and at 250 Mph, im not going to pull too many Gs from a gentle climb.

icemaw · « **Reply #11 on:** October 05, 2006, 06:02:25 PM »

just fly a f4u1 or a 109f for a couple days and your all set.

Krusty · « **Reply #12 on:** October 05, 2006, 06:08:01 PM »

I'm still waiting for just ONE example of a real Me262 that lost both wingtips while pulling a 3G turn at 50% fuel at 5k alt.

Mace2004 · « **Reply #13 on:** October 05, 2006, 10:41:40 PM »

I think there's a "glitch" somewhere and it's not limited to 262's as I had something similar happen in a HIIC. I was dead 6 on a Nikki almost directly over a friendly field. We were both level (i.e., non-maneuvering) and I was maybe D600 behind just waiting for him to dive when all of a sudden I just blew up. He did nothing, I did nothing. Radar was up, there were no other nme in the sector. I immediately scaned around visually from tower and there was the Nik overhead plus a few friendlies and that was it. No sneaking 262's, LAs, etc. Just the Nik. The field was friendly with no nme trains, factories, or CVs with flak. Even the Nikki pilot came up over 200 and asked WTF? It was hilarious and, of course, I didn't have film running. Who runs film flying straight and level? Anyway, sometime's shxt happens.

Bodhi · « **Reply #14 on:** October 05, 2006, 11:53:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
I'm still waiting for just ONE example of a real Me262 that lost both wingtips while pulling a 3G turn at 50% fuel at 5k alt.

Find an example of a 262 that lost half of it's wings in any situation and made it back to base.