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« on: October 08, 2006, 02:33:03 PM »
Minuteman project

Doesn't seem like too popular a notion to the future intellectual elite of this great nation. The guy barely opens his mouth before the stage is stormed, and auditorium overwhelmed.

Has youth always been like this? Rebelling just for the sake of rebelling? Towards the end, a student gives them a mouthful, as chanting overwhelms the audio from the background.

Free speech is a wonderful thing. It's very odd to see it turn into something ugly and downright dangerous.
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2006, 02:38:34 PM »
Just proves the point.

You dont have to be smart to go to college.
Nor have a brain at all for that matter
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2006, 02:42:01 PM »
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Just proves the point.

You dont have to be smart to go to college.
Nor have a brain at all for that matter


College? We're talking about one of the best Universities in the WORLD, not just the US. Apparently, it doesn't take brains to be numbered among the cream of intellect... Either that, or there were some uninvited guests in that crowd.

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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2006, 02:52:31 PM »
That was not an example of free speech. It was an example of denial of free speech simply because someone doesn't like the idea of a counter opinion. Sad example of boorishness. Chanting slogans is not an arguement or discussion.
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2006, 02:53:10 PM »
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College? We're talking about one of the best Universities in the WORLD, not just the US. Apparently, it doesn't take brains to be numbered among the cream of intellect... Either that, or there were some uninvited guests in that crowd.


there is smart and there is educated.
1 doesnt always equal the other and vise verse

Case in point above



I know alot of highly ediucated people who are otherwise complete idiots
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2006, 04:13:51 PM »
Well, I always liked to think that the smart had a better shot at becoming educated than the dumb, and once educated, were capable of more and greater. I think that the admissions policies at the top schools have been diluted enough to make that notion obsolete.

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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2006, 04:30:12 PM »
Saudi Arabia is building a 900km long "wall" on the border with Irak. They want to keep terrorists and refugees out and see no hope for a stable Irak in the future.

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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2006, 04:58:09 PM »
Ok let me rephrase

There is Book smart and there is common sense stupid.

Often. or. I am sorry to say more often then not there seems to be a direct correlation between education level  or I should say book smarts and common sense or lack thereof.

Typically. but not always. the higher the education, the lower the common sense.
There seems to be a tradeoff there.


I see this in my son all the time. Intellectually smart as a whip.
Common sense wise. or when dealing with the super obvious.
 Dumb as a doornail.
there are a bunch of times I have looked at him and scratched my head wondering how anyone that smart. can be that dumb

It seems that there is developed a mentality that fails to see the obvious.
Simple things are too simple to understand.

Also
Really though Just because you go to college doesnt mean your any smarter then anyone else or someone who hasnt.
It just means your more educated in whatever fields of study you have partaken in.

I've known a lot of people whom I or anyone would consider to be super smart who never went to college

and I also know an awful lot of people who have not only masters But are professors whom outside of their specific field, are complete idiots.

In the case of this thread what you are seeing is the latter
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2006, 06:11:17 PM »
I think you're giving them entirely too much credit. I am all too familiar with the smart morons of which you speak...

These people, however, are behaving like a group of excited monkeys at a zoo. No intellect to speak of. Their anger turned into glee when they successfully broke up the presentation, not to mention the auditorium. A person with academic intelligence would have understood that this sort of acting-out does not create sympathy or support for the cause.

If they did have brain cell one between them, they would chanted their idiocy in English, so that the powers-that-be would better understand them.

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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2006, 06:49:04 PM »
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College? We're talking about one of the best Universities in the WORLD, not just the US. Apparently, it doesn't take brains to be numbered among the cream of intellect... Either that, or there were some uninvited guests in that crowd.


I agree with Dred.   Just because you receive a "degree", does NOT mean you learned a thing.   Personally, I have found that the "higher the education", Common Sense is extremely lacking, regardless, of race, religion, creed, sex, country of origin, etc.
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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2006, 07:25:59 PM »
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I agree with Dred.   Just because you receive a "degree", does NOT mean you learned a thing.   Personally, I have found that the "higher the education", Common Sense is extremely lacking, regardless, of race, religion, creed, sex, country of origin, etc.


My only shock is that a university of a standard would admit people that were capable of degenerating to primate behavior. Possessing superior IQ but lacking common sense is one thing. But being part of a group that turns a peaceful, albeit contraversial presentation into a circus is indicative of more. No common sense. No culture. No ability to control your body when the emotions start to work overtime. These people don't belong at any university. I saw similar behavior during my undergrad days at the University of Maryland, and only after the Terps had a big victory over Duke. Police were brought in, control was re-established, and instigators were rounded up and tossed out.

Admissions policies need to be reviewed at Columbia. Of course, if any changes are made, this video will turn into a rallying cry and the students into martyrs.

Gotta love the PC movement.

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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2006, 07:52:53 PM »
hmm...

  Minuteman project.


  Ok, lets put our nazi and klan members armed on the border, and when they kill a mexican we can string them up.  one stone, 2 birds.

 I'm all for it.
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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2006, 09:09:47 PM »
not just any university but columbia university.  columbia is the premier school of journalism.  this is where the brightest and best go on to jobs in our press corps.  yet there isn't one single conservative professor tenured there and we just saw how tolerant and well educated the alumni are.  if we think our media is slanted now, wait ten years when these gems and the their recent predecessors start deciding what you and I need to know.

none of these shenanigans come as a shock to me.  the mainstream media lost it's objectivity in the early '60s.  there is nothing that I want to hear or see from any of the major media outlets outside of Fox News.

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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2006, 09:14:57 PM »
I watched Hannity and Colmes interview two of the protest organizers. According to them the Minuteman speaker had been talking for about 45 mins before the disruption. Doesn't excuse the actions of those shouting down the speaker who was invited to speak but to be fair this should be known. One of the young women seemed ready to overthrow the US government and establish one from Mexico. This is the part I will never understand. If Mexico is so great then why do they come here?

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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2006, 09:18:23 PM »
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If Mexico is so great then why do they come here?


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