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Offline gripen

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« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2006, 02:33:48 AM »
Well, seriouysly the Luftwaffe UFO stories are pretty much alike movie "The Blair Witch Project"; some people believe but most don't. However, both still have a value as good entertainment. I particularly liked "the Aldebaran" part.

The Lifter is a bit different case; anyone can build one and it's quite amazing to see it lift once the power is turned on. I've seen one demonstration of it and infact I have pretty much all the needed stuff here at home to build it (assuming that an old CRT monitor delivers needed voltage). But obiviouysly there is no particular magic behind it; just an interesting phenomena.

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« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2006, 08:50:37 AM »
Yes, too many fantasies coupled together in these stories tend to direct away from what is the real subject in these stories.

The question is: Has somebody been able to invent devices which can create some sort of antigravitational forces or even ideas which can lead to create these devices in the future.

In my mind the interesting question is not if nazi ufos flew to Mars,
or not even if these devices have been somewhere "back engineered" from ditched ET material...:p

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« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2006, 04:31:18 AM »
I've been through the presentation.
Lots of interesting things.
Okay, are the UFO's just military craft?
Is todays technology able to "lighten" aircraft?
I think those two are rather logical questions.
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It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2006, 05:55:17 AM »
I think one intersting application is the conductive layer in the wing leading edge which could decrease drag and in laboratory conditions even make the wing move through air. The idea is presented here in a different application:

http://jnaudin.free.fr/lifters/main.htm

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« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2006, 08:27:08 AM »
Well, that's the same link I posted days ago; an amazing thing anyway.

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« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2006, 08:50:06 AM »
Sry bout that Gripen.

Here is the actual application:

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/ehdaero.htm

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« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2006, 02:19:11 PM »
No problem Charge. There is huge amount of experiments listed in the Naudin's site; some by hobbyist, some by large companies.

BTW, the Lithium-polymer (Li-po) batteries are closing performance level where internally powered lifter might be soon possible. J. Naudin's "Maximus II" lifts 60 g playload with 390 W and as an example new generation of Li-pos weighing 60 g (3x800mAh lipos in series with voltage 12,6) do about 20C dis-charge rate (20 times capacity) ie given playload can produce now around 200-250 W assuming that a very light voltage-voltage converter can be made. So within couple years there might be radio controlled lifters.

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« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2006, 03:02:18 PM »
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No problem Charge. There is huge amount of experiments listed in the Naudin's site; some by hobbyist, some by large companies.

BTW, the Lithium-polymer (Li-po) batteries are closing performance level where internally powered lifter might be soon possible. J. Naudin's "Maximus II" lifts 60 g playload with 390 W and as an example new generation of Li-pos weighing 60 g (3x800mAh lipos in series with voltage 12,6) do about 20C dis-charge rate (20 times capacity) ie given playload can produce now around 200-250 W assuming that a very light voltage-voltage converter can be made. So within couple years there might be radio controlled lifters.

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these things need over 20KV to run though....
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« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2006, 03:26:36 PM »
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these things need over 20KV to run though....


That's why I mentioned the voltage-voltage converter. The switching type converter can be made very small nowadays and with good efficiency.

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« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2006, 03:30:08 AM »
My electric fence puts out 10 Kv, and I think you have 20+ Kv inside a TV set.
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