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Offline miraj

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« on: October 10, 2006, 02:26:06 PM »
As you can see I am new to the forum and the game.

 I used to play AirWarrior 1,2,3  back in the old 56k modem days.

 Now , I have the house and cars paid for and want to build an ultimate system , just for AcesHigh.

 I want to spend around 3-5 thousand with a nice big moniter. Being handy with wood , I want to also build a basic cockpit. Joystick on the right ,throttle on the left,built in rudder pedals, keyboard with remote custom keypad.

 My question for you guys , where should I buy the system from?

 I have seen some REALLY nice stuff at dell.com , and also at best-buy.

  Please any advice on a system would be very helpfull , and where should I get it from??

 Thanks

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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2006, 02:47:14 PM »
If you want the best performance, you would be far better off building the computer yourself.  OEM computers are loaded with bloat, in the form of 45 to 65 background processes.

Some of them have watch dog software to prevent you from disabling any of the processes.  Some of them do not come with an OS CD.

For the money you are looking to spend, you could really build a heck of a system.

It really is not difficult to build one, as long as you use quality parts, take your time, ask questions when you do not know, and take your time.  Did I mention you really need to take your time?

Lot of folks here build ther own.  Many are more than happy to give you advice and help.
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2006, 04:31:54 PM »
I can only echo what skuzzy says.

I had never built a computer before, though I had been inside the guts often enough with upgrades, etc, that I felt pretty comfortable. Skuzzy recently built a system, and posted his specs in this forum...I used that as a starting point, took a step down from some of his specs, and went for it.

So this was the first system I've ever built, and it was pretty much easy to do. The guys here were very helpful with tips ahead of time, and with references to other threads and web sites. It wa ssmooth as can be...

....and this system was about 2/3 the cost of a less powerful one from dell. (Incidentally, I found it is VERY hard to do apples-to-apples comparisons with self built computers and manufactured ones because most manufacturers cut lots of corners in the places you may not know where to look, like memory latency or motherboard quality.)

I had hesitated before this since I wanted the security blanket of tech supoprt to back me up; but after some bad experiences I realized that tech support was a waste of time, and almost always worthless unless you can penetrate the defenses sheilding the 3rd level guys. They were the ones who solved the problems in 30 seconds; but it took 40 hours of phone time to reach them. And, since guys with 10th level knowledge cruise these boards....who needs tech?

Anyway -- If you have any comfort with plugging in cables and memory modules, you owe it to yourself to consider a build.
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« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2006, 08:36:37 PM »
There is another way if like me you dont really feel like building your own, there are companies that build them for you like you want it and are upgradeable. I bought one this year from cyberpower. I just done a little reading up on what I wanted, and placed my order, 2 wks later its at my door.

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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2006, 01:10:09 AM »
miraj, welcome!  I began with AW3.  I'm all thumbs and actually built a system that works.  If you're not one of those who relish putting things together, you can buy your hardware to spec and pay a reasonable fee to someone to build it.

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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2006, 03:19:30 PM »
Thanks so much for the advice!!

 My 'computer guy' is building me a system from the ground up.It should be ready this week.

 Today I picked up a 26 inch LCD Flat HDTV with PC inputs.

 Also got a 5.1 Logitech sound system.

 ---Please advise me on a PREMIUM joystick and throttle , and pedals.----

 I saw a Siateck ,but it looked kind of flimsy.
 
 I want a good one. What are you guys useing.

 As with the joystick , I prefer the pedals to have good tension , it just feels better to me that way.

 So my question is , what brands do you all prefer for joystick and pedals??

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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2006, 04:42:47 PM »
CH products.

also get TRACK IR

http://www.naturalpoint.com

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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2006, 04:56:19 PM »
Here's another vote for CH Products joysticks and pedals.  I've been using them since the old Air Warrior days (howdy, fellow ex-Air Warrior!).

Also, I strongly recommend a headset with a good mic.  It's cheap, but I like the Koss CS-100.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2006, 04:58:25 PM by Brooke »

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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2006, 07:51:17 PM »
Used Thrustmaster, siatek, logicrap........

CH is the best so far.   CH stick = F16 fighterstick,  CH throt = CH Pro Throttle,  And the CH rudder peds are pretty good but you can have some minor problems with those.

Go USB, analog is hard to find and not supported by Win XP.

Get the latest software for CH too.
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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2006, 12:21:07 AM »
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Originally posted by Balsy
CH products.

also get TRACK IR

http://www.naturalpoint.com

Balsy


 Well , I got the Thrustmaster HOTAC setup tonight. It feels nice and heavy
 
 I just saw a demo of the Track IR , very nice indeed.
 Can you still use the hat switch for rear view . or do you have to turn your head behind you ?

  Do alot of you guys use the Track IR???
 
  Thanks again for the input ,please keep it coming , you people are helping me build my ultimate system and I appreciate that.

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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2006, 12:39:28 AM »
If you want an ultimate system, plan ahead. Hopefully the parts you're getting now allow for adequate upgrades later on (2 years down the line). That is, hopefully it's got the latest socket types and FSB speeds for the chip you've got, hopefully it's got PCI Express, and hopefully it accepts DDR2. Then again, this isn't so important because if it IS the top of the line, it'll "coast" a long way before sliding down the tech curve :aok

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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2006, 06:55:10 AM »
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Well , I got the Thrustmaster HOTAC setup tonight. It feels nice and heavy
 
 I just saw a demo of the Track IR , very nice indeed.
 Can you still use the hat switch for rear view . or do you have to turn your head behind you ?

  Do alot of you guys use the Track IR???
 
  Thanks again for the input ,please keep it coming , you people are helping me build my ultimate system and I appreciate that.


YOu can use the hats if you want to override the Track IR.  But the angles of the TRack IR to views are not 1 to 1. In other words I turn my head about 30 degrees to see all the way behind me.

Just think of all the ways you can utilize the hat switches (trim etc) if they are not being utilized by the views etc..


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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2006, 07:42:11 AM »
Here are the specs of the box being built.

Intel Core 2 Duo 64bit 2.04mhz dual processors

2048mb ram

Video 512mb 7950 Nvdia PCI Express 16

and a 'big' power supply.

Does this sound like a good system?

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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2006, 07:56:24 AM »
honestly i would wait on AMDs 4x4 but thats just me .. also giving you the possiblity of QUAD SLI  
 
From the looks of it Nvidia's partnership with AMD has grown four more legs in the support of the 4x4x4. As AMD asked Nvidia to create a chipset for its Quadfather launch.

News has hit the web that Nvidia has created the new platform for AMD for the 4x4 launch. The 4x4 plays host to 2 Opteron socket "F"'s on the same Motherboard which will than be upgradeable to AMD official Quad Core CPU which will be released next year. The system will not require registered ECC memory as rumored over the last few months, but will ask for regular DDR2 memory such as Corsair, OCZ, & Geil all provide currently.

The system will not only support quad-core Barcelona CPUs, but will support four graphics cards at the same time. Since the 680a chipset is created from a north bridge and south bridge chipset, there were enough PCIe lanes available to use four PEG (PCI Express Graphics) slots. Two slots come as x16 and two come as x8.

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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2006, 08:01:20 AM »
Ok , I dont understand a word you just said.

 Do you think I will be fast enough , with this system?