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Offline Chairboy

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« on: October 12, 2006, 10:10:59 AM »
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/news_columnists/article/0,1299,DRMN_86_5046957,00.html

Apparently a citizen made a bloodthirsty assault on the VP recently.  While walking past him, he said "Your policies in Iraq are reprehensible" and continued on his way.

For this, he was arrested and held for assault.  Media scrutiny seems to have had an effect, he was later released and charges were dropped.

If you're not worried about the way things are heading, you're not paying attention.  I'd be interested in hearing any defense of the 'assault' charge, if anyone has another insight into it.  Maybe I'm missing something, but this sounds pretty dang bad.
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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2006, 10:19:49 AM »
Pretty soon they will be able to arrest you and not give a reason why. Hail king george
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2006, 10:30:54 AM »
either he "couldn't hold his tongue" or he was looking for his payday as well
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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2006, 10:32:34 AM »
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either he "couldn't hold his tongue" or he was looking for his payday as well

If it is the latter, then it is a serious sad state of affairs when you know you will be (wrongfully) arrested for speaking your mind to an elected official.
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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2006, 10:35:17 AM »
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Originally posted by Chairboy
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/news_columnists/article/0,1299,DRMN_86_5046957,00.html

Apparently a citizen made a bloodthirsty assault on the VP recently.  While walking past him, he said "Your policies in Iraq are reprehensible" and continued on his way.

For this, he was arrested and held for assault.  Media scrutiny seems to have had an effect, he was later released and charges were dropped.

If you're not worried about the way things are heading, you're not paying attention.  I'd be interested in hearing any defense of the 'assault' charge, if anyone has another insight into it.  Maybe I'm missing something, but this sounds pretty dang bad.



I saw nothing from the police in that article. Nothing at all to tell what they said he did. Only his side of the story.

As far as media scrutiny I don't think it had anything at all to do with his release. It seems to be a pattern of catch and release that has been going on for some time.

Catch em get them out of sight and release them when everything is over.
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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2006, 10:41:53 AM »
Here's another link with some more to the story:
http://www.progressive.org/mag_mc100406

The secret service won't comment on the case, and at the jail, the charges were changed to 'harassment' then eventually dropped by the DA.

Chilling.
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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2006, 10:45:20 AM »
:noid :noid










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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2006, 10:56:13 AM »
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Pretty soon they will be able to arrest you and not give a reason why. Hail king george
What do you mean soon?
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2006, 10:59:06 AM »
Love it, you quote an OPINION piece that only provides Howards own description of what happened. After just two minutes of searching the web I found there's a little more out there that contradicts his version.  

A Secret Service agent arrested Howards after a witness claimed Howards had touched Cheney. here

"His behavior and demeanor wasn't quite right," Zahren told the Vail Daily. "The agents tried to question him, and he was argumentative and combative." here

If you still don't think he should have been arrested, and I agree actually arresting him may have been a little too agressive, consider what events might have been prevented had the Secret Service (or SS as the lefties like to call them) been more proactive in checking out suspicious actors near public figures.  The Bobby Kennedy assasination comes immediately to mind, there are more.  

I'm sure there's lots more out there on Howards case but even if his version were 100% true it sure doesn't seem to indicate next coming of the Third Reich.  BTW, Bill Clinton had a guy arrested in California for voicing his opinion against him in public.  Didn't see many claims the Nazi's were coming then.
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2006, 11:04:11 AM »
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Here's another link with some more to the story:
http://www.progressive.org/mag_mc100406

The secret service won't comment on the case, and at the jail, the charges were changed to 'harassment' then eventually dropped by the DA.

Chilling.



I agree, seems some in this thread want to march in step with this admin no mater what they do. Lock up citizens for no reason, that’s ok as long as the president isn’t an EvIL LIBRULE he can to do no wrong.

Interesting the guy who loves to fly airplanes made by Fascists is unconcerned about our slow shift towards Fascism.

Thats taking the leather fetish a bit to far, to bad they don’t have a constitution fetish.:aok
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« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2006, 11:07:05 AM »
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What do you mean soon?


Seems rpm may have already tried to "Hail King George". :D
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« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2006, 11:08:37 AM »
the news story was mostly about john blair, but if you don't agree with the govt policies on iraq you can put your ideas in writing and tell the govt what you think they should do about iraq.

"Your policies in Iraq are reprehensible", is not constructive criticism. far too many people can only criticize but have no helpful answers.

if you do not like the way the govt is handling anything, e-mail the president and members of congress and tell them how to do it right, it works, i know, and it is your right as a citizen of the USA.

criticism is easy, finding the right answers is hard.
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« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2006, 11:18:37 AM »
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Originally posted by john9001
the news story was mostly about john blair, but if you don't agree with the govt policies on iraq you can put your ideas in writing and tell the govt what you think they should do about iraq.

"Your policies in Iraq are reprehensible", is not constructive criticism. far too many people can only criticize but have no helpful answers.

if you do not like the way the govt is handling anything, e-mail the president and members of congress and tell them how to do it right, it works, i know, and it is your right as a citizen of the USA.

criticism is easy, finding the right answers is hard.



So its ok to be arrested for non constructive criticism? Is that really what you are saying? Really?
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« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2006, 11:28:05 AM »
It's funny...It seems like everyone are masters of foreign policy, law and the military...atleast ito   :aok
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« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2006, 11:29:11 AM »
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"Your policies in Iraq are reprehensible", is not constructive criticism. far too many people can only criticize but have no helpful answers.
Perhaps you could show me the constitutional freedom to "constructively criticize"?  Was it "The government shall make no law prohibiting the freedom of helpful assistance delivered with a smile"?
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