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Offline Clifra Jones

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« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2006, 08:12:42 PM »
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Cliffra, what alt are you proposing for the fields? Higher fields will make some fights start a little sooner, instead of driving 1/2 a sector on the deck.


This is a fairly steep terrain, hence the name "The Highland". The shorelines rise quickly up to 4-5K. This needs adjusting but the centers of the continents are fairly high, 15-17K with mountain peaks up to 25K

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« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2006, 08:30:55 PM »
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Well I tried that. The other choices are a 128 or 64 mile map. If I take this map and just reset the map size take a look at what happens for a 128 mile map.



Now your talking a about a map that is 5 sectors wide. Even in the EW I think that is just way to small.

My thinking was not to build a map targeted towards the low numbers in the EW, but to build a map that will attract more players into the EW.

For any Arena map I think 256 is as small as we'd want to go.


I think you may be surprised. I come at it from the other angle in that with a smaller map to start with players will be more likely to log in and stay. Reason being is they can find action easily. In time one would hope that you would have to increase the size of the map slightly to accomodate increased numbers.

I just find that by starting with a really big map it is very hard to draw players in and have them stay. Action is just too hard to find in that big an area. for the numbers that the EW see's i think a map anywhere between 15-25 sectors is probably perfect to start.

That's just my two bits though :)
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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2006, 12:38:13 AM »
I think anyone making a workable map should be rewarded with 2-6 months free play. - The game is CLEARLY in DIRE need of maps. ESPECIALLY with the new format- I have no time to even think about learning how to make maps- and is PAINFULLY obvious HTC doesn't either. Let's reward those with the time that put for the effort & achieve success:aok :D :cool: :) ;) :aok
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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2006, 06:40:02 AM »
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Have not seen that posted but I agree 256 is the smallest you want an MA map. As far as field spacing I can't find anything officially posted in the TE forum.

3/4 should be MAX for an EW map. For an LW map 3/4 wuld be a good min. I'd say 1/2 for MW.

HTC, can you clearify?

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Ok Found a reference to an old post by HT. Yes, he states that fields should be between 3/4 and 1.5 sectors. 3/4 is still long for EW.

HiTech, can you clearify this? Have not placed fields yet.


I have seen HT post more than once that the minimum distance between fields is 3/4 of a sector.

A quick call to HT at the office and you will have your answer.
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« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2006, 08:06:29 AM »
Less than 3/4 of a sector between airfields and you can have ack shooting at you from an enemy field before your hardly off the ground.

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« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2006, 08:25:16 AM »
perhaps HT will allow distances smaller than 3/4 sector for the EW, because the planes are far slower?

please HT?

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« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2006, 08:25:43 AM »
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Less than 3/4 of a sector between airfields and you can have ack shooting at you from an enemy field before your hardly off the ground.


Well, we certainly do not want that, 3/4 it is.

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« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2006, 08:27:42 AM »
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perhaps HT will allow distances smaller than 3/4 sector for the EW, because the planes are far slower?

please HT?


I believe Ghost is right, less than 3/4 and Ack will shoot at your from the other base. Closer fields would mean a change in Ack settings and I doubt that is gonna happen.

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« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2006, 08:33:07 AM »
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I think you may be surprised. I come at it from the other angle in that with a smaller map to start with players will be more likely to log in and stay. Reason being is they can find action easily. In time one would hope that you would have to increase the size of the map slightly to accomodate increased numbers.

I just find that by starting with a really big map it is very hard to draw players in and have them stay. Action is just too hard to find in that big an area. for the numbers that the EW see's i think a map anywhere between 15-25 sectors is probably perfect to start.

That's just my two bits though :)


Do you mean 15-25 linearly or square sectors? A 256 mile map is 10 sectors wide or 100 sq. sectors. A 128 mile map is 5 wide, or 25 sq. sectors.

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« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2006, 08:39:29 AM »
any map that has most or all of the fields 3/4 of a sector apart and allows cv's will be the best map we have for, at least the early and mid war...  Not so good for the lw and fluffers but... who cares about late war and fluffers?  give em the old big maps..  pizza and infinity are fine for the borg.

Somehow tho... biggles being able to get to me faster is not comforting.

yep... any map with closer fields will be a huge improvement.. the terrain... not so important...canyons?  yeah... mountains?  naaa.. no use for em.

new planes and new maps with closer fields are what EW needs.

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« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2006, 08:47:09 AM »
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Somehow tho... biggles being able to get to me faster is not comforting.




Hehehe :t

Great fights last night BTW, . I can't believe you got away the second time, those bloody F4F's are built like tanks :) It'd be fun to try and start a mini FT in EW, best fights are found there i reckon.

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« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2006, 08:52:33 AM »
If it were me, Id make a rough draft and send it to Hitech for approval before actual building it. Save some heartache if rejected.

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« Reply #27 on: October 16, 2006, 09:35:44 AM »
If you put air fields closer than 3/4 miles we will not accept it.

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« Reply #28 on: October 16, 2006, 09:44:53 AM »
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If you put air fields closer than 3/4 miles we will not accept it.


3/4 mile or 16.7 miles (3/4 sector) ?

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« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2006, 10:57:00 AM »
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If you put air fields closer than 3/4 miles we will not accept it.


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