Author Topic: have a min number sorties for rank to count (Read 2801 times)

BaldEagl · « **Reply #45 on:** October 30, 2006, 03:12:38 PM »

I just had one more thought on this that I had to post. If you limit the rank to those who have the "average number of flights" you would unfairly penalize people like me who have full time jobs plus household and/or family responsibilities. Beyond that, you would unfairly elevate those who were "ranked" as they would not be evaluated among the entire talent pool. Even with a full time job and hosehold reaponsibilities I manage about 2 hours a day in the game (although I'm not always on time for work because of it). There's no way I could squeeze any more time in. Between Air Warriors and this game I've been flying for almost 11 years and I would feel robbed if my efforts simply didn't get counted. I'm sure others are in the same boat (or plane or vehicle).

hitech · « **Reply #46 on:** October 30, 2006, 03:43:32 PM »

Handy169: Funy thing is you just want to compare total kills, that is already part of the scoring system VIA the points catagory, in that catagory you fly more you can get a higher score.

Also Kills per time is also part of the equation. Not just k/d.

HiTech

handy169 · « **Reply #47 on:** October 30, 2006, 06:31:28 PM »

no .. here is what i am saying. lets look at the top ten
rank kills sorties landed deaths time
1 2007 762 382 310 176:38:04
2 820 411 267 95 78:15:40
3 1868 1178 479 523 203:58:03
4 887 400 198 103 124:09:33
5 1751 1152 374 570 184:00:08
6 2103 1251 488 650 130:33:02
7 337 253 128 84 37:22:47
8 908 439 271 103 99:08:43
9 341 225 109 92 53:25:00
10 654 598 292 259 71:10:40

my totals for comparison
2405 3439 570 2199 180:42:30

its the same as my example of major league baseball batters.
you call someone up from the minors at the end of the season and he bats 1.000 for 10 games. does that mean his batting average is ranked #1 in the majors and wins the batting title. no you have to have a min number of at bats to qualify to to be ranked for the batting average title. thats why i said a average of everyones sorties should be considered. for those that dont log in hardly and for those of us that are logged in alot. theres is a fair average between the too .. lets say i started out the month and in 1 sortie in a tank had 80 kills .. upped a plane and had 20 kills and then upped a bomber and landed 10 kills and then as a attack upped and landed 10 more kills. i would be ranked in the top 20 without having flied another sortie that month.. based on those 4 sorties. you think if you saw that you would think i deserved to be there?

BaldEagl · « **Reply #48 on:** October 31, 2006, 12:34:43 AM »

handy169: Yep, you'd deserve it. Those would be awsome numbers. Ones I've never seen.

handy169 · « **Reply #49 on:** October 31, 2006, 01:04:39 AM »

oh its not about me. my stats well never allow me be ranked high cause i will always up to defend my field causing me to have lots of deaths. but i will say this you would think that these people that claim to be good should have more kills then me in the same amount of time. but thats just me. but hell i got more kills and deaths in the same amount of time

Stang · « **Reply #50 on:** October 31, 2006, 03:45:14 AM »

WTG Scott, haha.

hitech · « **Reply #51 on:** October 31, 2006, 10:13:55 AM »

Handy: I realy do not see the problem, all of the top 10 have flown at least 1:00 hour per day. If I was to implement what your asking for, it would be on the order of 10 sorties.

And also you seemed to miss the idea that points already gives the person flying more an advantage.

HiTech

handy169 · « **Reply #52 on:** October 31, 2006, 10:30:44 AM »

hitech> if your point is correct?

then if thats the case why is #7 ranked with only 37 hours for the entire month?

and everyone else has x2 to almost 6x that amount

straffo · « **Reply #53 on:** October 31, 2006, 10:32:24 AM »

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Originally posted by handy169
oh its not about me. my stats well never allow me be ranked high cause i will always up to defend my field causing me to have lots of deaths. but i will say this you would think that these people that claim to be good should have more kills then me in the same amount of time. but thats just me. but hell i got more kills and deaths in the same amount of time

Your rank is better than a lot of other players just because you've been in game 190 hours,it give you a lot of points.

But your K/D, K/S show you have a lot to learn.

scottydawg · « **Reply #54 on:** October 31, 2006, 11:18:30 AM »

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Originally posted by handy169
hitech> if your point is correct?

then if thats the case why is #7 ranked with only 37 hours for the entire month?

and everyone else has x2 to almost 6x that amount

Handy, your request is getting a little ridiculous... 37 hours for the month is over 1 hour per day average.

Most people have lives. Are you saying that only the losers who play 5+ hours per day on average should be eligible for rankings?

handy169 · « **Reply #55 on:** October 31, 2006, 11:32:34 AM »

no what i am saying what is the mean average of everyone that plays? thats should be the min number of hours or make it sorties for a person to be eligable to be in the ranks .. but the point that flying more puts you in the top 10 is busted when somoene that flown 37 hours for the month is in there and everyone else on average has about 80+, a mean average is fair cause it incompasses everyone and based on everyone.
i think it should be based on sorties more then time anyways cause time can be wasted .. where as sorties if you only on for a hour a day you'll get your flights in and if your just flying around doing nothing well then thats your own fault.

hitech · « **Reply #56 on:** October 31, 2006, 12:14:49 PM »

Now it is truly getting rediculess, Your saying less that 50% of the people who play should be ranked?

HiTech

scottydawg · « **Reply #57 on:** October 31, 2006, 12:14:49 PM »

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Originally posted by handy169
no what i am saying what is the mean average of everyone that plays? thats should be the min number of hours or make it sorties for a person to be eligable to be in the ranks .. but the point that flying more puts you in the top 10 is busted when somoene that flown 37 hours for the month is in there and everyone else on average has about 80+, a mean average is fair cause it incompasses everyone and based on everyone.
i think it should be based on sorties more then time anyways cause time can be wasted .. where as sorties if you only on for a hour a day you'll get your flights in and if your just flying around doing nothing well then thats your own fault.

Well that's your opinion... Seems what you're saying is no matter how bad you suck, if you play the game for 80 hours per month you should have a higher rank/score?

Simply flying means jack snot... as well as sorties. Half the time I realize I got the wrong loadout or fuel load and have to end sortie onthe runway... does that count? Seems to me the way you are describing your logic would put a new method of 'gaming the game' into play.

straffo · « **Reply #58 on:** November 01, 2006, 10:02:58 AM »

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Originally posted by handy169
no what i am saying what is the mean average of everyone that plays? thats should be the min number of hours or make it sorties for a person to be eligable to be in the ranks .. but the point that flying more puts you in the top 10 is busted when somoene that flown 37 hours for the month is in there and everyone else on average has about 80+, a mean average is fair cause it incompasses everyone and based on everyone.
i think it should be based on sorties more then time anyways cause time can be wasted .. where as sorties if you only on for a hour a day you'll get your flights in and if your just flying around doing nothing well then thats your own fault.

You're below because you're incompetent.

Work on your skills 1st before whinning

Masherbrum · « **Reply #59 on:** November 01, 2006, 10:28:41 AM »

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Originally posted by handy169
no i am actually ranked in the 700's you got people with 100-200 deaths ranked lower then me.. again .. its shows a problem in the ranking system

I'm 550ish, let's duel. You win, I'm still 550ish, You Lose, I'm still 550ish. I love the ranking system, it does wonders. I've rarely been on this month because of burnout. What's your INGAME ID. Next time on, I'll duel ya.

For you whining about folks with 200-300 sorties and a tone of kills. You ever hear of a "REARM PAD"?!!!!