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Offline scottydawg

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Rudder pedals, worth it?
« on: October 19, 2006, 08:33:15 AM »
I've got an X52, which I do like, with the twisty rudder, which I don't...  Seems like I end up really blowing an angle a lot because I spaz on the rudders at the exact wrong time.

Sooo.... I was looking at used CH pedals on Ebay, and also I see Saitek has a new setup, but it's even more expensive than the CH.

Couple of questions: Are the USB CH pedals compatible with the X52, and further, are they or the Saitek's really worth it, do they make that much f a difference?

I'll have to make other adjustments too, because I have a rolly chair on a hardwood floor where I play, so I guess I'll need a rug or something.

TIA

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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2006, 10:11:35 AM »
yes, get pedals
they take a little bit to get used to but you need them
I have only used the USB CH Pro pedals. The saiteks are brand new.
I have used the ch peds with both the X45 and the X52. You just have to assign the rudder axis to the peds in the AH hardware mapping.
I would get new ones for about $100 as the used ones may be wore out or flaky.
yes, you may need a rug or something if your chair rolls around easily now.
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2006, 12:24:32 PM »
I used to use a twisty stick, and had a very similar problem. I have a natural tendancy to twist the stick to the left, even in straight & level flight. Messing with the base angle of the stick didn't help any.

Got an x45 & ch pedals.

The x45 died after about 1 1/2 years, and I just switched to a Cougar HOTAS. I did like the x45 though, many good times with it.

The ch pedals have been almost flawless since I got used to them.The only issue that my particular set has is that if you don't plant your heels firmly, the toe brakes don't reliably go to the 0 position... which makes for some really interesting takeoffs & landings.

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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2006, 03:38:36 PM »
Yes, get CH pedals, and pref all CH gear - cant go wrong they last forever!
Yes, the CH USB peds will work with any other JS, its all how you map which to what within Aces High.
Yes, they make a difference. I have a sqaudmate whos used twisty stick for years and has recently got some CH pro peds, and he has taken a month or two to adjust to them, so it will take time, but ultimately you will be better off.
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2006, 03:48:15 PM »
What Eagler said .

His link is a good one . I bought alot of stuff at http://www.buy.com , that 30% off by getting their CC with free shipping seems really good deal .
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2006, 05:03:03 PM »
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...The ch pedals have been almost flawless since I got used to them.The only issue that my particular set has is that if you don't plant your heels firmly, the toe brakes don't reliably go to the 0 position... which makes for some really interesting takeoffs & landings.



i had this problem too, i fixed it the other day by taking off the pedal covers and "adjusting" the little tabs on the pots so it goes all the way to zero. took all of about 2 beers and 10 minutes.

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Re: Rudder pedals, worth it?
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2006, 01:17:24 AM »
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Originally posted by scottydawg
I've got an X52, which I do like, with the twisty rudder, which I don't...  Seems like I end up really blowing an angle a lot because I spaz on the rudders at the exact wrong time.

Sooo.... I was looking at used CH pedals on Ebay, and also I see Saitek has a new setup, but it's even more expensive than the CH.

Couple of questions: Are the USB CH pedals compatible with the X52, and further, are they or the Saitek's really worth it, do they make that much f a difference?

I'll have to make other adjustments too, because I have a rolly chair on a hardwood floor where I play, so I guess I'll need a rug or something.

TIA


Scotty,

I too own an X-52.  2 weeks ago I bought some CH Pro Pedals from Newegg.  They work fine with X-52!

I'm still not comfortable with them though.  I'm glad I bought them and fly with them nonetheless.

Regards,

hap

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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2006, 02:37:59 AM »
YESSSS!


This is coming from someone with an X45, that just about yesterday had her first night on AH with CH Pro Pedals. Still thinking kind of murderous thoughts about the person that suggested i needed them to advance further... but otherwise im happy I did it and look forward to my first, smooth takeoff :D.


Now joking aside. Looks like pedals are the hardest ive ever had to adapt to (controller change wise). But i can tell you now already - they are 150% worth the hassle.


And dont worry about rolly chair. I have the same and no problem at all. The pedals move light enough so you dont push yourself around.
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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2006, 02:39:16 AM »
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The ch pedals have been almost flawless since I got used to them.The only issue that my particular set has is that if you don't plant your heels firmly, the toe brakes don't reliably go to the 0 position... which makes for some really interesting takeoffs & landings.



Add a good measure of dead band to the Toe Brakes. This will shorten their range of motion (for input), but its not like you really need that precise of an input on them :). Alternatively you can hold them at a small angle after calibrating (changing the 0 position).
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2006, 03:40:11 PM »
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Looks like pedals are the hardest ive ever had to adapt to


Yep me too , only now they are second nature :) which is GREAT place to be .

ok tip time .

I went to the AH drones , which are hard to hit , with brand new pedals under your feet :(

Move the joystick to the "correct" height first , "then" move your rudder to were you want it . Keep practiceing that move till it gets easier . Worked for me . Trying to do both moves in one motion like I "do" now won't get it IMO till it gets easier .

You won't regret getting them , ya they are a reall "*****" to learn from a twist stick but well worth it .

wishing you the best
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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2006, 08:39:41 PM »
When my pedals are broken, I don't fly.  I recommend CH for precision, but their durability is terrible.  I've used CH for about five years, and every year one or both of my controllers stops functioning correctly and needs expensive repair.

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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2006, 02:58:31 PM »
Benny, you must have had bad luck with your flight gear.  That, or you throw it across the room a lot.  I have used CH gear going on 10 years.  It has been rock solid, except for the occasional pot wearing out.  They are easily and cheaply replaced.  I would still be flying with the same gear I bought in '97 if MS didn't screw up programming via the keyboard port with Windows 2000 and later.

CH gear is expensive, but it is worth every cent.  If my current kit ever needs replacing, it'll be replaced with more CH equipment.

Oh, and rudder pedals are definitely worth it.  They make getting some of those high angle snap shots easier, give finer yaw control than I could ever muster with a twisty stick, and provide a much better sense of immersion in the game.

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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2006, 09:52:44 PM »
Some of us prefer the high end stuff, if money is no prob I say go for it!!!!


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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2006, 02:46:09 PM »
Schatzi's advice didn't work :( Turns out one of the pots always thinks it's maxed out unless it's pinned down. Time to go with moneyguy's suggestion later this evening. Beers & screwdrivers. :confused:

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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2006, 09:25:21 AM »
I would go with the pedals and I don't even own a store bought one. :)

  I made some out of an old wingman and they don't look fancy but even just using these non professional ones I have been able to make shots that I never could befor and take off/landing has been much smoother.

  Problem is now the crappy Logicrap pot is going out and they are now spiking.
I think I'm gonna go to radio shack and see if I can get a better pot then I want to stop by Home Depot and get a couple sets of kitchen cabnet rollers and make some nicer pedals that actually slide forward and back rather than the twisty plank I have now:D .

  Any way I would say go for it. :aok
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