Author Topic: IE7 - anyone using it? (Read 696 times)

detch01 · « **on:** October 19, 2006, 06:20:07 PM »

I just installed it to see how it stands up in comparison to Firefox and was wondering if anyone else had experience with it and wished to comment.

Cheers,
asw

DAVENRINO · « **Reply #1 on:** October 19, 2006, 07:07:26 PM »

I have been using it since RC1 came out. Big improvement but I still use Opera as my main browser.

Roscoroo · « **Reply #2 on:** October 19, 2006, 07:10:34 PM »

its Bill's copy of firefox ....

dmf · « **Reply #3 on:** October 19, 2006, 07:26:33 PM »

IE7 looks like sombody was smokeing pot when they made it, the buttons are all in the wrong places, the tabed browsing is no where near as good as firefox, and the colors are just so pleaseing that I think I might go blind so I never have to look at it again.

I'l stay with FF

detch01 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 19, 2006, 07:33:53 PM »

Well, after playing around with it for an hour or so it seems like a moderately decent copy of firefox. Although these days I automatically disbelieve any claims by MS about the security of the apps I'm kind of hoping this one is better than IE6 in that regard.
I'll use this for a couple of days on this puter and leave activeX turned on to see what damage is done. Can you say reformat?

asw

dmf · « **Reply #5 on:** October 20, 2006, 08:22:33 PM »

Yea leave active x on, I'm not a computer genus, but I know enough to know that now days anything put out by M/S needs a security overhaul.

My 12 year old neighbor is the one that convinced me that SP2 security centert is a pos, I had it all on, and he made a animated roach crawel across my screen, nice firewall.

I bet IE7 has more holes in it that a cheese grater.

Spatula · « **Reply #6 on:** October 21, 2006, 04:22:44 AM »

I use firefox and love it. See no reason to change. So, no im not going to use it or install it unless i have to, and it wont be to use it as a browser. Too much of a security risk.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #7 on:** October 21, 2006, 06:57:13 AM »

You do not want to leave ActiveX on. MS has yet to address the major security issues with it. They are thinking about it for Vista, but dunt hold your breath.

Oh, and there is already an exploit for IE7, if you leave ActiveX enabled and allow scripts to run in the default security setting.

detch01 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 21, 2006, 12:12:58 PM »

Well, this morning I bumped the security levels up to where I'm more comfortable although in full day of using it normally with the default settings I ran into surprisingly few problems - although that is more due to my luck (or choice of web sites to visit) than the design of the software.
About the only thing it (IE7) has over firefox is a little feature that makes text easier to read (good for my old eyes). The interface seems a little clunky to me in comparison and it is a little slower to load non-cached pages than FF, but it's not too bad. The surprising thing about it is that it's memory use is only a little over 8meg - especially since it's a MS product.
The best thing I can say for it is that it's left me ambivalent about the choice between using FF and IE. I do like the readable text thing though.

Skuzzy - re Vista. That's a nightmare I'm not in the least interested in seeing, ever. It will look pretty if you have the system to run it full out, but from what I have seen so far, functionally it isn't any better than XP. I'm pretty sure the only actual thinking that went into the design of it came out of the marketing department in MS.

asw

Max · « **Reply #9 on:** October 21, 2006, 12:17:37 PM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
You do not want to leave ActiveX on. MS has yet to address the major security issues with it. They are thinking about it for Vista, but dunt hold your breath.

Oh, and there is already an exploit for IE7, if you leave ActiveX enabled and allow scripts to run in the default security setting.

Just curious Skuzzy, do you use Firefox, Opera or ___________?

zorstorer · « **Reply #10 on:** October 21, 2006, 12:34:20 PM »

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Originally posted by Max
Just curious Skuzzy, do you use Firefox, Opera or ___________?

Silly question, Skuzzy uses Skuzzy v2.12 tm.

OOZ662 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 21, 2006, 06:08:30 PM »

Skuzzy owns the internet. He doesn't need to bowse it.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #12 on:** October 21, 2006, 06:49:46 PM »

Well, depends on what computer I am on. I use IE on Windows. Never had a problem, never will, I suspect. I looked at FireFox, and did not like it at all.

The only people who have trouble with IE, are those who do not take the time to setup thier security so it is the same as the other broswers. Of course, there are also those who just hate MS and do whatever they can to make IE sound like the spawn of the devil. Of course, being from MS, it just might be that.

IE is the only browser which has support for ActiveX, and it is the tool by which 99% of spyware/malware/viruses and or any other malady can get to your computer.

The default security settings for IE are atrocious. And the thing is, if you do not tweak the settings, whether or not you use IE, you are still leaving your computer open to all sorts of problems.

Other things I do to help keep my boxes secure. I never install an application which requires ActiveX to be enabled. I do have the luxury of having a trash computer at home to test apps with, so I do not screw up the Windows registry by installing and removing applcations which do not clean up after themselves. After that, I take the product back to the store.

I use my own mail program at home (wrote it for UNIX years ago and ported it over). Please do not ask for it, as I have learned the hard way, it simply is not worth the support time for me to give it out (i.e. how come my pretty picures do not show up?). HTML in email is an abomination.

If a site requires ActiveX, I put that site in my restricted zone list. Yeah, I do not do banking over the Internet (idiotic way to run a WEB site, no wonder they lose thier customer information so often).

I allow java scripts on trusted sites to run, but I never allow java to run (there is a difference).

I block all third party cookies. If your site cannot keep its own cookies, then dunt bother me with them.

I block all popups. I do not have the browser remember my login information for any site.

There are a host of other things.

No one likes using my computer to 'surf' with. They miss all the 'cool' stuff. Pfffhhh.

On my UNIX boxes, at home, I use lynx and never have to worry about stuff.

Spatula · « **Reply #13 on:** October 21, 2006, 06:54:04 PM »

http://secunia.com/advisories/22477/

Heres the flaw already found in IE 7.

Wait for SP1 at the least...

Max · « **Reply #14 on:** October 21, 2006, 09:29:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy

The only people who have trouble with IE, are those who do not take the time to setup thier security so it is the same as the other broswers. Of course, there are also those who just hate MS and do whatever they can to make IE sound like the spawn of the devil. Of course, being from MS, it just might be that.

IE is the only browser which has support for ActiveX, and it is the tool by which 99% of spyware/malware/viruses and or any other malady can get to your computer.

The default security settings for IE are atrocious. And the thing is, if you do not tweak the settings, whether or not you use IE, you are still leaving your computer open to all sorts of problems.

Other things I do to help keep my boxes secure. I never install an application which requires ActiveX to be enabled. I do have the luxury of having a trash computer at home to test apps with, so I do not screw up the Windows registry by installing and removing applcations which do not clean up after themselves. After that, I take the product back to the store.

I use my own mail program at home (wrote it for UNIX years ago and ported it over). Please do not ask for it, as I have learned the hard way, it simply is not worth the support time for me to give it out (i.e. how come my pretty picures do not show up?). HTML in email is an abomination.

If a site requires ActiveX, I put that site in my restricted zone list. Yeah, I do not do banking over the Internet (idiotic way to run a WEB site, no wonder they lose thier customer information so often).

I allow java scripts on trusted sites to run, but I never allow java to run (there is a difference).

I block all third party cookies. If your site cannot keep its own cookies, then dunt bother me with them.

I block all popups. I do not have the browser remember my login information for any site.

There are a host of other things.

No one likes using my computer to 'surf' with. They miss all the 'cool' stuff. Pfffhhh.

On my UNIX boxes, at home, I use lynx and never have to worry about stuff.

Skuzzy, mind translating that into English?

Seriously...when you have time, which I know is next to never, could you please give those of us who use computers for basic day-to-day stuff - including gaming and annoying you on the HTC UBB- some hints as to security parameters for IE.

In fact, a forum above and beyond "Hardware & Software" would be extremely helpfull for US folks who don't have a degree in computer science to learn from YOU guys who do. I would love to chew on as much info as I could to keep my computer uptodate, virus-worm-trojan-malware free. Trouble is, I don't know what you pros know and by the time a problem rolls around...it's too late.

Besides yourself, we have folks like Kev and Shawk, and probably many more who could offer us non-geeks many ways to keep our systems up to snuff. Would also likely lessen the calls to HTC as well.

I'd urge yourself and the rest of the HTC crew to consider something like this.

On bended knee ~