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Offline Dago

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« Reply #75 on: October 24, 2006, 10:58:04 PM »
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MT - I am 99% sure that his world is just a white little world.  Maybe a token black or two, but that might be stretching it.


Ah, if you don't agree with someone, you either toss a slam, or you try to place the race card on them.

BS.

Affirmitive action is a sham.  Laws can require equal opportunity, but to give one race an advantage in college admissions, job hiring, or business contract awards, it is simply a form of discrimination that punishes achievers and rewards those who don't strive as hard to excel.

It is a crutch to the lazy or underachivers, and it is a concept and practice that weaken a society.

A hard working minority will achieve and reap the benefits of their work and efforts regardless of race without requiring affirmitive action to help them.
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« Reply #76 on: October 25, 2006, 09:00:11 AM »
MT... I don't understand... are you saying that the democrat and socialist public school system is not working as the liberals told us it would?

The ones who want public schools and the teachers themselves are all liberals.... It should be a socialist utopia...  How can you blame education for people not having equal opportunity?

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« Reply #77 on: October 25, 2006, 09:17:28 AM »
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MT... I don't understand... are you saying that the democrat and socialist public school system is not working as the liberals told us it would?

The ones who want public schools and the teachers themselves are all liberals.... It should be a socialist utopia...  How can you blame education for people not having equal opportunity?

lazs


obviously we just need to throw more money at it ... yeah, that always fixes everything...
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« Reply #78 on: October 25, 2006, 11:34:44 AM »
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mietla.... beat me to it.  Libertarians  believe in eqaulity of opportunity while socialist and democrats believe in equality of outcome.

Afirmitive action and such are perfect examples of trying to get an equal outcome...  "Hate crimes" are an attempt and getting an equal outcome... neither has anything to do with equality of opportunity.  Our tax system is meant to punish those who work the hardest and reward those who work  the least.  This is classic equality of outcome at the expense of any real equality of opportunity.

lazs

To play the semantics game... you mean punish those who get paid the most and reward those who get paid the least. Compensation is not always directly related to the effort of work you put in.

As for the overall theme of the thread, I do not believe that tax rates are the only factor in determining the government's revenue.
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« Reply #79 on: October 25, 2006, 01:41:12 PM »
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Corporations do not pay taxes, they just collect them


Thank you!:aok

You wouldn't believe the flak I got for pointing that out a couple of years ago.
The consumer pays the tax of the United States. The biggest group of consumers have an income below $50,000. People in that group pay the taxes of the United States. That why its IMPOSSIBLE to tax the rich as Dems like to say. The rich just pass the cost off to the the consumer who make less than $50,000 a year.
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« Reply #80 on: October 25, 2006, 02:21:18 PM »
If it is true that corporations pay no taxes... then why on earth do innumerable businesses set up fake offices as tax shelters?  Seems like it would be a huge waste of time to set up a corporate headquarters in the Bahamas if you are an American company, just to avoid not paying taxes.  

Also, businesses typically do not pass the full amount of a tax increase onto the consumer.  Prices go up, but it isn't as simple as "old price + tax = new price".
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« Reply #81 on: October 25, 2006, 02:33:50 PM »
I'd be so f*(&@!# rich if my small business didn't have to pay taxes. It would practically double paychecks before individual federal taxes.
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« Reply #82 on: October 25, 2006, 02:36:47 PM »
Set up a shell corporation in the Bahamas, and make your business a subsidiary.  

I'm not an expert of ripping people off, but I know it happens.  Hell, the comptroller of maryland used to rant about maryland companies setting up 'corporate headquarters' (basically a mail box) in Delaware to avoid paying state taxes here.  

I'm sure if you are inventive enough you can get away with not paying taxes... except I guess you don't anyway because you are a corporation.  I'm sooo confused...
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« Reply #83 on: October 25, 2006, 02:42:53 PM »
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I'm sure if you are inventive enough you can get away with not paying taxes...


Are revolutions inventive enough?
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« Reply #84 on: October 25, 2006, 02:47:18 PM »
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to play their Robin Hood card thus paying back their base through entitlement programs funded off the backs of the working class


Robin Hood stole the collected taxes from the sherriff and Prince John and gave that tax back to the taxpayers.

In order to play Robin Hood, one must be a tax cutter.
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« Reply #85 on: October 25, 2006, 02:50:38 PM »
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Leveling the playing field and giving everyone a chance regardless of the circumstances set up by past history and present prejudice.


What about present or future history?  Why is it we only talk of past history?
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« Reply #86 on: October 25, 2006, 03:11:59 PM »
we pay too much in taxes right now and the government wastes every cent we give em.

the democrats want us to pay more taxes which the government will waste.

We can't cut taxes and government power by electing democrats.

yes... it really is that simple.

lazs
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« Reply #87 on: October 25, 2006, 03:41:35 PM »
The US owes people, governments 10 trillion dollars. You are only paying taxes to service the debt and not reduce the principal. Bush went form a surplus of 200 billion to this huge debt. You will now have a lower quality of life as will your children to pay this debt. The US will soon be the only industrial country that does not have universal health care, the infastructure will deteriorate, schools etc. The debt as all debts are paid with lower expenditures to needs, wants and toys. Enjoy the downward trend in citizen expenditures. BTW, and increase in taxes is the only way this debt is going to be paid. In 30 years we may again have a surplus, but it may take even longer to achieve.
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« Reply #88 on: October 25, 2006, 04:47:09 PM »
Thank you Mr. Shades.  I have already explained how the system works.  Now go away.
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« Reply #89 on: October 25, 2006, 04:47:59 PM »
You explained how you think the system works...
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