Whats a \\\"Mega Squad\\\"?

[Ball]

My squad is a mega squad.  It rules.

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[SlapShot]

Originally posted by Schatzi
Thats exactly my point. I understand you play the game to FIGHT, not to do the milkrun. So do I. What i mean is this: Others obviously do NOT play the game to fight, but to do their thing (and i dont mean that degrading in any way - just different goals in game). Whyt dont the "fighter" types just *ignore* them and find like minded players to do THEIR thing while the "landgrabbers" can do theirs.

But then maybe the "BBS Whine" is just another "goal in game"..... Im sorry for disturbing you all. Just dont mind my wonderings.
Carry on .

Well ... in the OLD MA ... we tried to ignore them, but they didn't ignore us ...

if a decent furball did form, the "strat" guys would get pissed off due to the fact the "country resources are being wasted furballing" ... sooooo ... some would take that matter into their own hands and promptly destroy all the FHs at the opponents field ... thinking that that action would then bring the furballers into the "strat" line.

if a decent furball did form when a CV was off the coast, the "strat" guys would get pissed off due to the fact the "country resources are being wasted furballing" ... sooooo ... some would take that matter into their own hands and promptly destroy the CV ... thinking that that action would then bring the furballers into the "strat" line.

In either case, when the furballers questioned their actions, you promptly got a or ... "I can do whatever I want ... you don't pay my subscription".

This I believe was the seed that started all this "furballer" vs "strat" confrontation.

This is why the furballers have so vehemently attacked the "strat" genre ... you see ... the furballers CAN NOT directly effect the strat guys, but the strat guys CAN directly effect the furballers.

With the change ... this, to me, is not as prevalent as it use to be, I haven't seen any of this since the change.

[E25280]

Originally posted by SlapShot
Well ... in the OLD MA ... we tried to ignore them, but they didn't ignore us ...

if a decent furball did form, the "strat" guys would get pissed off due to the fact the "country resources are being wasted furballing" ... sooooo ... some would take that matter into their own hands and promptly destroy all the FHs at the opponents field ... thinking that that action would then bring the furballers into the "strat" line.

 And herein lies the problem.  Furballers got griefed -- no doubt about it.  But rather than leave the blame where it belongs -- with the griefers -- many furballers continue to paint all "strat guys" with the same broad brush, saying they are all by definition trying to grief you.  This is just patently rediculous -- and a bit paranoid.

Originally posted by SlapShot
if a decent furball did form when a CV was off the coast, the "strat" guys would get pissed off due to the fact the "country resources are being wasted furballing" ... sooooo ... some would take that matter into their own hands and promptly destroy the CV ... thinking that that action would then bring the furballers into the "strat" line.

Will a "strat guy" sink a CV -- absolutely, every time.  But not for the reason you state.  Whether or not it is being used only for furballing as far as you can tell, chances are some "strat guy" on the CV side is going to try to use it to take the base.  Since CVs can not be porked of troops, the only way to remove the "strat threat" to the nearby base is to remove the CV.  So again, you assume someone is trying to "ruin your fun" when that has nothing to do with it.

I would wager a guess that the vast majority of the "strat guys" don't care what the furballers do.  I am sure 90% plus never had anything to do with any griefing activity.  Still, if any single one of them expresses any displeasure with the state of the game, it is apparently ok to treat him as if he is the cause of all the game's troubles, the source of all the "furballers" frustration, and should just cancel his subscription and go away.  Wonderful treatment toward someone who most likely never even condoned, let alone participated in, any of the activity he's "blamed" for.

[jhookt]

is it possible to get LTAR's added to the "evil list of mega toolshedding borg furball hater squads"?

cause we hate fun too.

[pluck]

they way i see it, HTC set a squad limit....for a reason.  we can debate the reason all we want, my guess would be so that one group could not dominate an arena with numbers, which affects gameplay.  maybe a year or 2 before the split, the mega squads were a factor, but that was when they would face off against each other.  yada yada yada, things changed, gameplay was suffering, so much so, that HTC felt they needed to change directions.  The point is, that a limit was set for number of people in squads, that limit was in turn exploited in a sense, and now a change to try to return to the game HTC invisioned (just guessing).  So in a sense, mega squad issues, are issues created by the squad leaders because they decided they needed more than 32 lemmings:) (guess better post that that is a joke, because i now how tempermental many around here are).

so, do we really want to go into furball vs. strat guy mode.  both sides have been harsh on each other.  it's not, one side was slightly less harsh.  when furballers complained about gameplay, they were told to go to the DA, get a new arena, don't like the whorde fight them all yourself, this is war!  Furballers responded by insulting that mentality and claiming strat guys have ruined AH.  fortunately HTC agreed that gameplay/community was suffering,  leading to "furballers have ruined AH....in particular Corky."  that is a brief history up until this point.  now we are reaching a new chapter, i call it "megasquad and you"  it will mostly be about the effects of mega-squads, but with undertones of previous battles fought between the valiant furballers and the loathsome straters.  (again, just kidding for those who are unable to tell)

[hitech]

Pluck: Great synopsis.

[Donzo]

Here's what I don't get when I read all these negative posts about "mega-squads":

Let's say an arena has 300 people in it...100 in each country.

Country A decides to work as a team and they go about taking bases...sometimes all 100 as a whole, other times in two groups of 50.

Wouldn't this be an exaggeration of the complaints being heard concerning "mega-squads"?

What's the difference?

In the above situation, all members were in agreement that they would work together to acheive the goal of a reset.

Is that so wrong because the players in the other two countries just wanted to do their own things?

[1Boner]

i would still like to see the figures on how many guys are flying together in a mega squad in one night(squad nite)-----i know that in my borg horde ruin the game squad-i have never seen more than 20--25 guys on at the same time with a singular purpose in mind-----thats one night a week----20--25 guys----how does that affect a week of playing?????---the rest of the time these guys may fly together in small groups of 4-5 guys--but most fly alone  -looking for fights!!!!!!----hi-tech --please make a fighter town arena for those who can,t take a couple hours a week to allow for squad nite---a full time fighter arena would be great!!!!!-----

[FBplmmr]

Originally posted by gatt
So, whats next on the black list ... arena missions?

there's a "black list"!!???  am I on it?

[Slash27]

Originally posted by Masherbrum
 

Are some just bored they now troll?

How the hell do you figure Im just trolling?

[FBplmmr]

in defense of strat guys-- when they come across a greeat fight (furball) with a cv offshore or whatever, they don't necessarily see it as a "great fight" but as a battle that can be "won" if they fixed it by dropping the cv or FH's

its not (always or probably even frequently ) done to piss off the furballers .. they are actually tring to "help" so when they drop the cv and someone say "hey we needed that " they are offended because they thought they were doing the right thing.

same goes for dropping FH's


I run into it with my squad because I like to furball AND take bases and when we get a few guys on soemtimes the call goes out to "drop the hangars" and I am thinking to myself "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO there's a bunch of guys having a blast blowing the crap outta each other over here and you guys want to drop the hangars." in those situations the best I can hope for is to drop my eggs and get back in the fight.

[Westy]

"lemmings"

Humorous bullseye Pluck!  A better lable could not be given.  

[belethch]

FB's are most certaianly on it for the very good missions. fbplmmr

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by Donzo
Here's what I don't get when I read all these negative posts about "mega-squads":

Let's say an arena has 300 people in it...100 in each country.

Country A decides to work as a team and they go about taking bases...sometimes all 100 as a whole, other times in two groups of 50.

Wouldn't this be an exaggeration of the complaints being heard concerning "mega-squads"?

What's the difference?

In the above situation, all members were in agreement that they would work together to acheive the goal of a reset.

Is that so wrong because the players in the other two countries just wanted to do their own things?

Under your scenario it wouldn't be an issue at all.  You describe equal numbers on all sides.  As I mentioned before, it becomes an issue when those 'multi-squads' enter an arena and totally throw off the balance and then proceed to roll the undefended bases.  Their argument being 'we want to fly with our squad members etc.

[Slash27]

Which squads are doing this Guppy?


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