Whats a \\\"Mega Squad\\\"?

[Flayed1]

Guppy while I can see your point to some degree, but if we wanted to fight each other we would just go to the DA...  We like the comradery of working togeather not against each other.  

 And still the problem comes up again if I'm trying to win a war on one side it just seems silly to jump over and start trying to win the war for the oposing team..  I know this is a repeat of other posts but thats the way I see it.. I could see changing sides but not in the short term hops that everyone thinks we should be doing...  I could see jumping after a reset or some such but not in the middle of the "war".   Jumping works for the guys just looking for an even  furball but I don't see it working well for anyone that is actually trying to go for the reset for the side you are on. I know the reset is not the only goal available in the game and I really could care less about the perks (I rarly fly perk planes) but it is the biggest one for me, trying to beat the other team is the most fun for me and most of the people I fly with.
 
  Like when I play paintball I'm not gonna change sides in the middle of a game and start shooting my team in the back just because the other team lost some players. We would probably even up teams after the game was over.

  You might have more country jumping to even out sides if there was no other goal than just the furball but I think that goal is what alot of people like to play for and if we didn't have it I think HT would lose alot of people.

  I think one of the biggest reasons for the so called mega squad now that I think about it is not so we can have the huge # advantage because this only happenes on monday but on any other day you could almost always count on having at least 4 or 5 other friends on at any point in the day that you enjoy flying with....  So the only time the mega squad issue really matters is on squad night... Maybe we should rename this squad co op night

[Raider179]

Originally posted by lazs2

Your idea "defend them" is lousy gameplay because defense consists of flying cap at alt and never getting to fight...

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's [/B]

Actually having an objective such as base defensive is fun and not lousy. That is just your opinion yet you state it as fact. Tell you what, you keep your little FM2 down there in the weeds and let the rest of us "fly cap at alt". Sheesh I don't see why you even care anymore, seems to me like you are just on some ego trip. You have your EW arena. Seems to me like you just want to belittle people who have fun fighting the war.

I still find it hilarious that a squad of 32 guys is wetting their pants over 3 squads that work together. If the BOPS are so bad and your guys are so good, what is your issue? Wah wah, they fly together and capture bases. How the hell does that affect you? lol what a joke you are making of yourself. Instead of the elite fighter pilots you think you are, you have made yourself into a whiner who complains because others don't fly like you. It's really sad Lazs...

[Flayed1]

Indy again I wasnt where ever you were so I don't know what the situation was from bish point of view..     All I can say is I usually don't do things like that unless deperate and even then I hate the whole suicide thing. I can't speak for all actions of all members all over the map.

[FALCONWING]

Originally posted by indy007
I've got a great vid last night fighting against BOP ... Perigrine (sp?) wing.

They've got a bunch of suicide lemmings. Not all the wings do, but this one definately does. LAs were trying to vulch the CV, 110s were doing the non-stop suicide dweeb thing.

Just takes a few bad apples...

It was a sad contrast to a beautiful 4 formation ju88 attack earlier in the day (wish I knew who made that one.. think it was in EWA), and the 20 minutes I spent getting hosed by Ball & Stang while winged up with FX1.

i think what this guy is talking about went like this:

BoPs take 5 back...no rook bothers to defend...

we start wrking on 6 to consolidate it and i see 10 is nothing but one red dar bar.  i  up and am immediately vulched by one of 10+ planes...vh is ded and i see an lvt crossing the field towards the town which is ded. i call the bops and say  specifically "Lets show the whiners how bops save a field thats overwhelmed"

about 10 of us launch simultaneoulsy and get up and kill all the cappers and the lvt...but there is an enemy cv right off shore...no ordinance..what to do?

well a second wave of cv planes arrive and aftrer getting vulched 3 times i whack 4 in a row...i then roll a 110 and start strafing the cv guns down.  the dar bar of rooks absolutely disappears...they have troops and a mid size airbase nearby at 9 but they never come back.  

i somehow get two guns on cv and two on a support ship...a string of pt boats up and i do a crescent turn into them starfing and nail 4!!! woot!!!
i think ndy and teearr were 2 of them.

so ndy you are pitiful...if you really cant rememebr the actual order of events then im sorry for you....since i only played for an hour last night i know this must be what you are referring too.  and if killing a cv off the shore makes us "lemmings" then you truly have no sense of how the game works.  of course cv ack would tear us up...duhhhh!  but instead of posting a whine post in here about being vulched, capped and outnumbered..we kicked the rooks butt (including yours) and got to joke and goof on squad ch the whole time (woot! great night and a fun caper...cigars for all and a double malt because it actually got a moronic post in here!)

Quaaaaahhhh!!!!!!!:O

[Flayed1]

Ahhhh ok Falc that sounds like the BOP's not the lemmings that were being described

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by Flayed1
Guppy while I can see your point to some degree, but if we wanted to fight each other we would just go to the DA...  We like the comradery of working togeather not against each other.  

 And still the problem comes up again if I'm trying to win a war on one side it just seems silly to jump over and start trying to win the war for the oposing team..  I know this is a repeat of other posts but thats the way I see it.. I could see changing sides but not in the short term hops that everyone thinks we should be doing...  I could see jumping after a reset or some such but not in the middle of the "war".   Jumping works for the guys just looking for an even  furball but I don't see it working well for anyone that is actually trying to go for the reset for the side you are on. I know the reset is not the only goal available in the game and I really could care less about the perks (I rarly fly perk planes) but it is the biggest one for me, trying to beat the other team is the most fun for me and most of the people I fly with.
 
  Like when I play paintball I'm not gonna change sides in the middle of a game and start shooting my team in the back just because the other team lost some players. We would probably even up teams after the game was over.

  You might have more country jumping to even out sides if there was no other goal than just the furball but I think that goal is what alot of people like to play for and if we didn't have it I think HT would lose alot of people.

  I think one of the biggest reasons for the so called mega squad now that I think about it is not so we can have the huge # advantage because this only happenes on monday but on any other day you could almost always count on having at least 4 or 5 other friends on at any point in the day that you enjoy flying with....  So the only time the mega squad issue really matters is on squad night... Maybe we should rename this squad co op night

I guess where we're going to see it differently is that I don't see that there is a 'winning of the war."  The war continues 24 hours a day on and on.  I guess if resetting the map is the goal, it makes sense to take advantage of the numbers.  To me winning the reset isn't winning the war, it's starting the do over .

For me, when I come into the arena I look at the numbers and go low numbers everytime.  I then look for the largest dar bar of baduns and go there

We can debate the mindlessness of both furballing and base capture forever I suppose.

As for the squad stuff.  Obviously I have a squad as well.  I've purposely limited it to 12 guys as my experience with larger squads has tended to be less then good.  I also figure when I come up that there are lots of folks that I know and can wing up with if squaddies aren't flying at the time.  

I'm certainly not trying to tell you guys how to fly or play the game.  In the end, the bottom line for me is balance and the best fun for everyone and that's where the 'mega squads' and I differ on what's most important I think.

[storch]

I don't know about all that, I recall masherbrum, myself, Tbarone and three other rooks completely derail a base capture attempt by the Bops.  when they realized that 30 of them were no match for six of us. they just went and captured another undefended base elsewhere.

the moral of the story is that squads like this like to fight inanimate objects.  if they run across opposition then they flee.  they need to bend the rules because clearly 32 players is an insufficient number of players necessary for them to capture defended bases given their average playing skill.

squads like these are a pox upon the game, in my opinion.

I do however support their right to play in any manner they choose,  it's their $14.95

I don't like it when they expect others to approve of their game play or expect others to somehow agree with them that they don't stink.

just saying.

[indy007]

Originally posted by FALCONWING
i somehow get two guns on cv and two on a support ship...a string of pt boats up and i do a crescent turn into them starfing and nail 4!!! woot!!!
i think ndy and teearr were 2 of them.

nope, 0 for 0 against me... and your "string of PT boats" as best I can tell is Visigoth, and him alone. You make your accomplishments sound so good though. If I could only execute a turn and strafe barely moving objects...

you in sales?

of course cv ack would tear us up...duhhhh!  but instead of posting a whine post in here about being vulched, capped and outnumbered..we kicked the rooks butt (including yours) and got to joke and goof on squad ch the whole time (woot! great night and a fun caper...cigars for all and a double malt because it actually got a moronic post in here!)

I tookoff into a fight, shot down 2 of your guys (shubie & 1boner), got set on fire by a cherrypicker, and still landed an extremely slow aircraft on a vulched CV... and I'm a crappy furballer. I lost what felt like a dozen straight to Furball & Stang earlier. So the emergency landing really did make my night. If I cared about my cartoon airplanes & pilot, I wouldn't up into that kind of situation.

...but you've still got lemmings.

at least lemmings are cute.

Quaaaaahhhh!!!!!!!:O [/B]

I don't do the quah thing. Don't know what it means, nor particularly care. I have no signature sounds, nor sayings, and no desire to use the search function to figure it out.

[1Boner]

there were 3-4 persistant  pts that kept re-spawning-----for about 10 solid minutes----fun------defending a base that was capped for a while--then sinking the offending cv-----not fun??--my bad.    dweeb---got your butts kicked by 10 cute little lemmings , who,s base YOU were trying to take-------funny when you get shot down its a cherry picker!!!--lmfao!!-----always something nice to say you guys!!!-----keep it up---lots o fun!!!!---your pal boner

[indy007]

Originally posted by 1Boner
there were 3-4 persistant  pts that kept re-spawning-----for about 10 solid minutes----fun------defending a base that was capped for a while--then sinking the offending cv-----not fun??--my bad.    dweeb---got your butts kicked by 10 cute little lemmings

Dude, you're 0 for 2 against me when fighting with an advantage that ranged from 17 to 1 - 4.25 to 1 at any given time... while flying the exact same aircraft, and starting each time with the E advantage.

and I'm a crappy furballer at that... who got their butt kicked again?

[1Boner]

Dude?------that says alot right there!!-----i never cut you or the guys you were with down--never said i was a better pilot either----said i had fun.and we repelled your attack------glad to see you,re keepin track of whos better than who  --Dude!!--lmfao!!!---you guys truly are a riot!!!-------your good buddy , Boner

[lazs2]

actualy....  We BK's feel like we are cheating when there are more than 3-5 of us on and we are on the same team.

We don't fight bops because they really aren't worth fighting most of the time... better to just find a real fight.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

[1Boner]

and don,t think we don,t appreciate it!!!!---just wann thank you for not beating up on us too much....1--really!!------sincerely yours, Boner

[hubsonfire]

Originally posted by 1Boner
i never cut you or the guys you were with down--never said i was a better pilot either----said i had fun

Originally posted by 1Boner
dweeb---got your butts kicked by 10 cute little lemmings

Um...

[Stang]

Originally posted by FALCONWING


Quaaaaahhhh!!!!!!!:O

Ohz no jooo didn't.