Author Topic: Windows Vista (Read 429 times)

1K3 · « **on:** October 24, 2006, 10:34:26 PM »

Anyone here tried the beta version? How is it overall? Is the system requirements going to be stiff for the official version?

RAIDER14 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 25, 2006, 12:35:23 AM »

I'm still running Windows 98 on my other computer:D

Skuzzy · « **Reply #2 on:** October 25, 2006, 06:17:05 AM »

Take how ever much computer RAM you currently have to run what you run now, double it and increase your CPU performance by about 25% to accomplish the same thing on Vista is a decent guideline.
At a minimum, Vista will need 1GB of RAM to reasonably run any basic applications. 2GB minimum if you want to play any DX games. 4GB if you want the same game performance a 1GB XP system delivers.

And if you want to run Aero (the new Vista desktop), you will need a hardware accelerated 3D video card with 256MB of RAM, as a minimum to get the same performance from the desktop as XP delivers now.

Those are general guidelines, but should be pretty close to reality.

Nilsen · « **Reply #3 on:** October 25, 2006, 08:41:53 AM »

Cupons for upgrades from XP to Vista will be shipped with new/some new computers from leading brands from tomorrw...october 26.

MrRiplEy[H] · « **Reply #4 on:** October 25, 2006, 08:54:18 AM »

I have coupons for a free lobotomy at the next mental institution whoever wants.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #5 on:** October 25, 2006, 04:49:52 PM »

A free lobotomy? I thought that came with Vista? Or is it a prerequisite?

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 25, 2006, 04:51:56 PM »

Skuzzy, is it feasible to dual boot a computer with vista and xp?

Charon · « **Reply #7 on:** October 25, 2006, 04:53:45 PM »

I just know though, that eventually there is going to be this killer game that really kicks it in Direct X 10. I rue the day I will be foreced to give MS more money for nothing but that.

Charon

RAIDER14 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 25, 2006, 04:59:57 PM »

one day they will make computers that restore memory after you delete a file

Skuzzy · « **Reply #9 on:** October 25, 2006, 05:07:36 PM »

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Originally posted by Charon
I just know though, that eventually there is going to be this killer game that really kicks it in Direct X 10. I rue the day I will be foreced to give MS more money for nothing but that.

Charon

Not to mention all the hardware upgrades you would have to do. New video card (has to support DX10 if you want to see all those DX10 features), more RAM, faster CPU, more RAM, bigger power supply (the DX10 video cards from ATI and NVidia are purported to require double the current requirements), more RAM, and oh, did I mention, more RAM?

Yeager · « **Reply #10 on:** October 25, 2006, 05:11:18 PM »

when AH no longer runs on my computer running win98 Im throwing in the towel and buying a notebook to check email and read CNN online, that is all.

Charon · « **Reply #11 on:** October 25, 2006, 05:34:27 PM »

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Not to mention all the hardware upgrades you would have to do. New video card (has to support DX10 if you want to see all those DX10 features), more RAM, faster CPU, more RAM, bigger power supply (the DX10 video cards from ATI and NVidia are purported to require double the current requirements), more RAM, and oh, did I mention, more RAM?

Well, the hardware somehow keeps regenerating itself at a regular rate regardless of these outside factors

It's a bit of a drag haveing so much performance consumed by the OS though. Do you think the real "release quality" code (Service patch 2 or so) still require as much overhead? Or will it just be fixing the numerous security holes that will likely pop up and not the bloated code?

Similarly, shouldn't the video drivers get tightened up a bit? Or is this just going to be a big, fat ugly pig of an OS.

Charon

Wolfala · « **Reply #12 on:** October 25, 2006, 06:08:15 PM »

Skuzzy,

About the file system. Wasn't one of the features replacing NTFS with a file system resembling a SQL database? Or is that something which has not been followed through with?

Wolf

Skuzzy · « **Reply #13 on:** October 25, 2006, 06:19:07 PM »

Charon, all the drivers for Vista are new. All of them. They all have to use the .NET architecture, which royally sucks. More overhead in an API which was already overloaded.

Hardware drivers have no business having to deal with so much bloat. They should be lean and mean, but MS has taken an application mentality towards the drivers and virtually every other aspect of this OS (I really am having a hard time calling this thing an OS).

The overhead will not go away. There are more background processes than you can shake a stick at. More you cannot shut down without the OS puking its single-cell brain out.

It is an atrocity. It is an application trying to control the hardware and everything a user can toss at it. It takes more control away from you. This is the biggest thing that irks me.

I see no advantage over XP, and too many disadvantages. Why does it exist at all? It does nothing for the user but make things more difficult. Anything it adds can be added to XP as it is mostly utility, not OS related.

The file system is still NTFS.

Kev367th · « **Reply #14 on:** October 25, 2006, 06:24:41 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Skuzzy, is it feasible to dual boot a computer with vista and xp?

Been a lot of thoughts on dual booting Vista.

It may not let you install a second OS (especially if it's a non Microsoft product) because of DRM.
I think the juries still out.