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« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2006, 07:47:58 PM »
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Oh great. now we are comparing a man supposedly of god to two antiChrists LMAO


No, not at all, someone said he was a great speaker.   I named two other's.

I am a Catholic.  However, I have a piece of Banded Ironstone from the UP of Michigan.   The rock is known dated as 3.6 billion years old.   I showed it to a Baptist, he told me "the Earth was only 11,000 years old".    C'est La Vie.
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« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2006, 09:47:44 PM »
Impossible!  

Xenu told me and Tom Cruise the earth is only 48 this year! (But still doesn't look a day over 35)

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« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2006, 01:23:40 AM »
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No, not at all, someone said he was a great speaker.   I named two other's.

I am a Catholic.  However, I have a piece of Banded Ironstone from the UP of Michigan.   The rock is known dated as 3.6 billion years old.   I showed it to a Baptist, he told me "the Earth was only 11,000 years old".    C'est La Vie.


you're both extremists
hes a religous one, you're an owning-old-rocks one
OMFG 3,600,000,000 is a lot of years!!!!1

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« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2006, 09:02:36 AM »
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you're both extremists
hes a religous one, you're an owning-old-rocks one
OMFG 3,600,000,000 is a lot of years!!!!1


Not an extremist!!!  Geology was my first Major in College.    Still study it and use it as a hobby.  

Yes, that rock is older than dirt :)
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« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2006, 09:32:19 AM »
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The rock is known dated as 3.6 billion years old.


wow, that is nearly as old as lazs!

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« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2006, 10:07:34 AM »
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Oh great. now we are comparing a man supposedly of god to two antiChrists LMAO


I'm pretty sure that there hasn't been an evil leader yet that hasn't held himself out to be a man of the people, a friend to the masses, etc, etc...

The man 'supposedly of god' could well be the devil incarnate himself. He just won't say this outloud because it gets far fewer people onboard for the ride to hell.

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« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2006, 10:31:17 AM »
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wow, that is nearly as old as lazs!



Heehee.

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« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2006, 04:10:25 PM »
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It is remarkable how people like that reject all forms of scientific evidence and yet are quite prepared to make up some junk science based on the wording of a much translated book written thousands of years ago.

It isn't really neccessary to watch the rest.  It's pathetic.


It used to be the holy man WAS the scientist, all knowing and extremely influential in society... he was the "Shell answer man" for the unknown. Greeks believed angry gods made thunder / lightning, why?, some holy man made it up because he had no real clue WTF... but at least it was an answer people could understand, to alleviate their fears.

Science has been challenging, and disproving, old holy man explanations for decades now.. of course they're going to resist being proven wrong (over and over again) otherwise they become totally irrelevant.

The holy man doesn't want to be seen as just another dude in a robe with an opinion, they want people to believe they have some special insight to answers.. and the science man just keeps getting in the way.

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« Reply #38 on: November 06, 2006, 02:50:23 AM »
Joseph Campbell's The Hero with a thousand faces and Myths to live by.
I haven't read The power of myth, but the first two are very good studies of that shift.
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« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2006, 09:41:01 AM »
I watched one of the other episodes where he talks about big-bang theory and creation of the universe. The man either doesn't understand physics at all or simply ignore it and lies to the crowd. The mess he made out cosmology and astrophysics was hillarious.

I also loved the "so logically..." illogical conclusions. "we measure something that is increasing, therefor millions of years ago - it was lower..." well, yes, if everything is linear or monotonous :D

damn good speaker though, too bad he talks BS.
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« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2006, 09:44:05 AM »
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damn good speaker though, too bad he talks BS.


The only thing I found to be impressive about his public speaking is his ability to keep a straight face, given the subject matter... Of course, that may be the whole trick with anyone preaching absurdity to those that know no better. Who knows, if Hitler had broken out in laughter during one of his tirades, the world might be a different place today.

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« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2006, 11:13:04 PM »
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Impossible!  

Xenu told me and Tom Cruise the earth is only 48 this year! (But still doesn't look a day over 35)

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« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2006, 06:22:02 AM »
Hovind doesn't just fight science, he ignores jesus - you know, "render unto ceasar..".  I guess his claim about being above the tax code was in error.

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« Reply #43 on: November 07, 2006, 10:54:07 AM »
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No, not at all, someone said he was a great speaker.   I named two other's.

I am a Catholic.  However, I have a piece of Banded Ironstone from the UP of Michigan.   The rock is known dated as 3.6 billion years old.   I showed it to a Baptist, he told me "the Earth was only 11,000 years old".    C'est La Vie.



Hi Masherbrum,

Since you have a background in geology, I was wondering if you could decode the last paragraph below from a U Mich website about radiometric dating. I cannot get a clear understanding of what they are trying to say.

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A useful analogy to illustrate the fundamentals of geochronology is an hourglass. If we start with one side of the hourglass full (containing the 'parent') and the other side empty (containing the 'daughter'), we only need to know the rate at which the sands moves from one chamber to the other (represented by the half-life) and the amount of sand in the daughter chamber or the amount of parent remaining to determine how much time has passed. However, in reality matters are more complex.

A complication occurs in natural samples because at the time the radiogenic clock starts ticking, the sample already contains some daughter material; in other words, some sand is already present in the daughter chamber even before we begin measuring time. This amount of daughter is referred to as the initial daughter. Therefore, when we measure the amount of daughter product in our specimen we are combining the amounts of daughter from decay of the parent and initial daughter. The amount of initial daughter, however, needs to be subtracted for age determination.

The solution to this problem lies in first determining the amount of initial daughter. The actual method is a little tricky, but basically what we need is to find a part of the sample that contains no radiogenic 87Rb. The measured 87Sr in that part of the sample must therefore be initial daughter (i.e., non-radiogenic in origin). The tricky part comes from the fact that such a component cannot be found, but the same result may be obtained using components (minerals) of the sample that contain different amounts of 87Rb.
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« Reply #44 on: November 07, 2006, 04:06:26 PM »
Kent Hovind himself actually proves evolution -

He was so dumb he couldn't survive, hence he is now in jail, removing himself from the gene pool.

For an 'Intelligent Designer' to come up with an ambassador for himself like Kent Hovind, well, says a lot huh.

OK if the Earth / universe is only 6000 odd years long explain this -

How is it possible to see stars that are millions/billions of light years away?
Their light wouldn't have even reached us.

Don't know what was scarier, his BS, or the fact people were cheering and applauding him.
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