HiTech, Please Expain This

[Overlag]

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[moneyguy]

Originally posted by hitech
LOL Sloehand , Do you realy even belive your own analogy in your case?

Or do you wish me to never again make any change to AH.

HiTech

i think he wants you to bow down to his, and only his, everywish  

[viper215]

[Sloehand]

Originally posted by hitech
LOL Sloehand , Do you realy even belive your own analogy in your case?

Or do you wish me to never again make any change to AH.

HiTech

HiTech-

You fall back on the same, tired excuse, when you know that is NOT what we're saying.  Take the analogy only as far as it was intended.  Analogies are not all-inclusive, they are similies used to make a specific point understood by relating to a possibly common refererence.  

No, we do not expect not to have some change.  That's very obviously not what we are saying.  It's some of your "change" is extremely radical sometimes, or sprung on us in a surprise that you impact people's enjoyment of the game, or just not very well thought out.  We would take such things better if they didn't come as a complete, disruptive splash of ice cold water.

You know, if you'd have announced a week in advance that you were going to the new arena format, and would be experimenting with some of the parameters, and asked for constructive feedback, you would have avoided most (not all, but a lot) of the anger and dissatisfaction you have now.  Yea, there would be some disatisfaction voiced a head of time, etc, etc, but in the long run you would have had the majority of players, maybe not liking the changes, but at least feeling you were considering them, and including them in the transformation process.  It would have been less disruptive and have fostered less destructive responses than you have now. Instead, you have a hostile forum (it certainly doesn't feel like a friendly community anymore), made more so by you and your lack of consideration.

My biggest fear is your really don't understand this reaction from the players, on both sides of the question, and maybe don't care.  Means someday, when some real competition comes along, you may find you have nothing in the "bank" with your customers.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Free
Really?


When I got out to dinner and pay $X Dollars for meal I was always under the impression I was paying for the food and their service.

We shouldn't have to make sacrifices to play a game.

Then LEAVE!

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Sloehand
HiTech-

You fall back on the same, tired excuse, when you know that is NOT what we're saying.  Take the analogy only as far as it was intended.  Analogies are not all-inclusive, they are similies used to make a specific point understood by relating to a possibly common refererence.  

No, we do not expect not to have some change.  That's very obviously not what we are saying.  It's some of your "change" is extremely radical sometimes, or sprung on us in a surprise that you impact people's enjoyment of the game, or just not very well thought out.  We would take such things better if they didn't come as a complete, disruptive splash of ice cold water.

You know, if you'd have announced a week in advance that you were going to the new arena format, and would be experimenting with some of the parameters, and asked for constructive feedback, you would have avoided most (not all, but a lot) of the anger and dissatisfaction you have now.  Yea, there would be some disatisfaction voiced a head of time, etc, etc, but in the long run you would have had the majority of players, maybe not liking the changes, but at least feeling you were considering them, and including them in the transformation process.  It would have been less disruptive and have fostered less destructive responses than you have now. Instead, you have a hostile forum (it certainly doesn't feel like a friendly community anymore), made more so by you and your lack of consideration.

My biggest fear is your really don't understand this reaction from the players, on both sides of the question, and maybe don't care.  Means someday, when some real competition comes along, you may find you have nothing in the "bank" with your customers.

Had he "given a week's notice", the whines would have been worse than they were/are from people like yourself.  

I enjoy the Community, where else can you have "professional musicians who cannot tune a guitar, or sing simple lyrics without straining their voice", "folks who have rubbed elbows with the best WWII pilots who were alive when they did, or are still alive".   "Folks who are too lazy to do what HTC has done,  but are too quick to criticize when he institutes a change."  "Pictures of crying Pandas, animations of n00k's that bring tears from laughter, and a host of others."  Channel 200 and this BBS make Comedy Central look like "Mr. Roger's Neighborhood."

Suck it up or LEAVE!   Trying to "tell HTC how to run HIS Business", is NOT the proper resolution.   It seems your negativity, and pessimism have you at the end of your rope.   Let go, it'll be easier for all involved.

[Kurt]

I just don't get it...

My squad played before and after the change, heck, me and flyinPtz been around for 4 years...

The change was a little jarring, and then we adjusted and moved on.

Its never destroyed even one squad night... We go to mid, or late, or early, what ever works for the mission.  Mid war is normally well populated (although I admit early war is a little sparse -- Shame, early is a lot of fun).

So the whole 'anti-squad' argument is poo...

The whole 'I can't play with my squad' argument is poo...

Anyone who is selling that line should instead say "My squad is dieing because we are to adverse to change"...

Or perhaps "We'd rather cry than play the game".

Sure, I'd rather have greater population in all the wars, but it will come.. Given time at least.

My only complaint is that the statistics are completely butchered now because people pad their score by flying in empty arenas...

Beyond that, SloeHand, I had a lot more respect for you before I read this thread.  You really come across like a lost kid in a grocery store... (as long as we are playing analogy...)

[hitech]

Sloehand: Sorry I do not buy your argument. What would happen is before the change people would threaten to quit if we implement the change. The same people would still complaining about the change. The vocal few hew are still screaming loudly would have tried to get other people on there side before the launch. The launch would have gone much worse because of the apprehension about the change.


Sloehand: We very intentionally did not announce the original change because of the factors above. I can point to past examples where we have announced that we new would be controversial. All it accomplished was a longer period of complainants, and in no way helped the acceptance.


And I view your argument, as simply "I'm still unhappy with the current system, therefore I still have to try accuse HTC of some type of bad behavior."

In fact you are just beeting a dead horse, we addressed this very question, with  responses to questions 2 or 3 days after the change.

HiTech

[Hammy]

Originally posted by hitech
Sloehand: Sorry I do not buy your argument. What would happen is before the change people would threaten to quit if we implement the change. The same people would still complaining about the change. The vocal few hew are still screaming loudly would have tried to get other people on there side before the launch. The launch would have gone much worse because of the apprehension about the change.


Sloehand: We very intentionally did not announce the original change because of the factors above. I can point to past examples where we have announced that we new would be controversial. All it accomplished was a longer period of complainants, and in no way helped the acceptance.


And I view your argument, as simply "I'm still unhappy with the current system, therefore I still have to try accuse HTC of some type of bad behavior."

In fact you are just beeting a dead horse, we addressed this very question, with  responses to questions 2 or 3 days after the change.

HiTech

well, i closed my account a month ago so cant comment on changes that have happened since then but.......................... ........................

I still see more peeps "complaining" than those "advocating" the changes.

Glad i quit when i did.

[Shuffler]

Pay to play or leave today.

I think there are only a vocal few who are disgruntled over the changes. Most I talk to are either happy with the changes or have no opinion.

I am happy with the changes.

[Lusche]

Originally posted by Hammy

I still see more peeps "complaining" than those "advocating" the changes.

Keep in mind that satisfied customers are usually much less vocal than non-satisfied.

[Simaril]

Originally posted by Hammy
well, i closed my account a month ago so cant comment on changes that have happened since then but.......................... ........................

I still see more peeps "complaining" than those "advocating" the changes.

Glad i quit when i did.

Need to check out Guppy's "That's IT -- I'm not quitting!" thread.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Hammy
well, i closed my account a month ago so cant comment on changes that have happened since then but.......................... ........................

I still see more peeps "complaining" than those "advocating" the changes.

Glad i quit when i did.

No, not new people just the same ones day in and day out.



ack-ack

[JMFJ]

Originally posted by hitech
Free: So you can always order chineese food at a steak house?

How dare they not service there customer.


HiTech

It would be more like going to your favorite steak house to find out they no longer sell steaks, and are now a chinese food resturaunt.

With the added bonus of being heckled by every customer sitting in the now chinese resturaunt for asking why they don't sell steaks anymore.

JMFJ

[Arlo]

Since most of the heckling customers have been long time ones, you'd think the heckling would be a clue that perception isn't matching reality. You've had dreams like this, haven't you?