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Offline handy169

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« on: November 02, 2006, 06:52:16 AM »
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9004498
 


i been blessed to have a volume license of Windows XP Pro so never had to worry about changing parts and having it reactivate or even have to deal with the activation process period.
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« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2006, 11:00:12 AM »
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http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9004498
 


i been blessed to have a volume license of Windows XP Pro so never had to worry about changing parts and having it reactivate or even have to deal with the activation process period.


I have an OEM XP Pro, it wasn't a hassle to reinstall on a new HD and delete from the old HD.   Hmm, all I did was take 20 seconds to enter in the old key.  

God, the things some people make a big deal out of.
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« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2006, 11:05:06 AM »
you did have to reactivate it though right? also in doing so your breaking the EULA. and if they start keeping track if configuration data at activation it could bring to a end of people using the  number over and over on different systems.
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« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2006, 11:14:41 AM »
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you did have to reactivate it though right? also in doing so your breaking the EULA. and if they start keeping track if configuration data at activation it could bring to a end of people using the  number over and over on different systems.


I called Microsoft before I bought this current PC.   All I had to do was delete it from the old drive ("we don't want two PC's having the same License").   I did NOT break any EULA.

The "old PC" isn't even being used.   I'm not worried as I was informed by Microsoft on what to do.
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« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2006, 11:17:33 AM »
ah okay .. but you still had to activate and if you make changes to your system you still run the risk of having to reactivate it.  where as vista you'd have to by a new license all together
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« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2006, 12:01:09 PM »
I changed things in my last PC and never had to reactivate it.
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2006, 12:11:45 PM »
you can change things to a point before the system will make you reactivate it.. only happen to me once .. i dont know what the threshold is for it to make you reactivate it but whatever that is .. in vista its alot easier to hit from what i read
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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2006, 02:00:11 PM »
apparently i spoke to late. MS has caved in on its stance with Vista
 
http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=134

If you purchase a new computer with Windows Vista preinstalled, or if you build your own PC using an OEM version of Windows, this change doesn't affect you. Your copy is locked to that PC and cannot be transferred to another.

If you purchase a retail copy of Windows Vista and install it on a PC, you can install that same copy on another PC, provided you remove it from the original PC. In this scenario, you may be unable to activate the new copy over the Internet, but you will be able to activate over the phone.

You can perform an unlimited number of upgrades to an existing computer running a retail version of Windows Vista. If those upgrades are significant enough to cause the computer to look like a new PC, you'll be required to reactivate within 30 days.

This change should resolve one issue associated with the use of Windows Vista in virtual machines as well. Under the newly worded license, you should be able to move a virtual copy of Windows Vista to a new physical hardware without violating the terms of the license agreement, provided that you remove the virtual machine files from the old hardware.
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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2006, 10:25:18 AM »
Yeah, I'm getting in line behind Skuzzy and other's on the lunacy regarding this new "platform".
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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2006, 12:17:55 PM »
You have to realize that there are several licensing options. If you buy the cheap OEM version of the software you're not allowed to migrate it between systems. If you buy retail version ($$) you're allowed to migrate it between systems.
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2006, 12:47:38 PM »
Let's just hope no one buys any of it.  :)

I know it will be impossible to avoid, but hey, I can dream.
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2006, 01:33:27 PM »
facing microsoft and other software companies. Basically just about all licensing restrictions beyond the fundemental premise that you can only use it one place at a time are being oveturned in the courts. It is not legal for MS to restrict useage to either the original owner or to a single machine (at least for any retail copy). Basically legal use rights for consumers of software are being put on the same footing as books, CD's, DVD's etc...you own your copy and can do what you like subject to restrictions on piracy etc...
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2006, 03:43:11 PM »
It cost twice as much as it would to build a nice PC, but I'm happier each day with my iMac.  Especially reading about Vista.  

Check out Mac Owners Support Group (google it, I'm heading to work and too lazy and incompetent to post a link) and on the forum there's some info about Vista as well.

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btw, Aces High never looked better than on my Apple.  :D

Regards,

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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2006, 05:52:20 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2006, 04:05:51 AM »
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Let's just hope no one buys any of it.  :)

I know it will be impossible to avoid, but hey, I can dream.


Agreed
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