Democrats win big on House. Senate... a toss-up

[lazs2]

six you don't get it?   if you start a program and raise a tax to cover it... as that program grows in size and scope... more money and taxes are needed to support it.   None of the democrats entitlements ever go away.

Look at what we spend our taxes on and then tell me that the republicans are the cause of it...   Wars get paid for with a healthy economy... the entitlements never do and...  in order to pay for em you have to raise taxes which... makes the economy sick which means the entitlements then need to be more heavily funded (more welfare) which means higher taxes which means the economy gets even sicker..... and on and on.

you simply can't tax your way into prosperity and you can't end poverty by making everyone poor.

lazs

[Silat]

Originally posted by Eagler
you haven't seen damage yet ... its coming though

Correct you are. We havent even begun to see the damage that rep control has wrought on this country. It will take years for us to recover from the damage..

[Silat]

Originally posted by Sixpence
lol! You're kidding right? Show me an administration that has borrowed and spent like this one, one where the house,senate, and White House was controlled by republicans. Didn't raise taxes? Who is going to pay that debt? What, we are going to migically print all that money to pay it?

Since Reagan, it has been republican administrations who have built our debt, not the democrats.

The dems tax and spend, the republicans borrow money they don't have and spend. Say what you want, but it is alot better to pay cash for something than to borrow the money for it and pay compound interest on it.

Six you cant convince them..
Its like a talking point. Blame the dems in spite of the facts....

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by Silat
Its like a talking point. Blame the dems in spite of the facts....

^^^^^

pot talking to the kettle

[wrag]

IMHO there isn't a dimes worth of difference between the Dems and the Reps.  Further I've come to look on the situation in our politics as the parties are co-operating BIG time.  Both are workin all the time to keep the newer parties OUT of the loop.

Dems want something...Reps say NO then when Reps get into power the put what the Dems wanted into effect.  some of the laws the Dems wanted while Klinton was in power were denied by the Reps with the claim they gave TOO much power to the Pres.  Reps got into power and BANG nearly the 1st thing they did was enact many of the laws the Klinton Administartion wanted.

It's all B.S. n smoke n mirrors.   Several of the Dems and Reps are considered part of the Bilderbuger group, our at least many attended the meetings.   That and the Tri-lateral commission stuff.

Note sayin conspearacy, but sure makes a body wonder!

[Eagler]

Originally posted by wrag
.. some of the laws the Dems wanted while Klinton was in power were denied by the Reps with the claim they gave TOO much power to the Pres.  Reps got into power and BANG nearly the 1st thing they did was enact many of the laws the Klinton Administartion wanted..

 

[1K3]

Prez Bush should take notes from the The Terminator.  Governor Aanold (CA) manages to get things done, even in overwhelming democrat-controlled congress.  Yes Prez Bush should follow the the current example in CA if he wants a smooth ride for the next 2 years...

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Urchin
Not really a loss at all for the Republicans.  

They are just setting up for 2008, right guys?

As I stated in another thread. The Dems have whined long enough.
Now its time for them  to do something. Whinging and complaining alone isnt gonna cut it anymore.
Yet for all their complaints. None has any kind of a real plan.
Well now they will HAVE to do somethnng
Or Yes. they will just be getting set up to loose again in 08

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by 1K3
Prez Bush should take notes from the The Terminator.  Governor Aanold (CA) manages to get things done, even in overwhelming democrat-controlled congress.  Yes Prez Bush should follow the the current example in CA if he wants a smooth ride for the next 2 years...

Who wants a smooth ride? I want things DONE. Damn a smooth ride.

And the Democrats have decided to be obstructionists again, already. They have already said they won't even CONSIDER Bolton's appointment to the UN. It doesn't matter how good a job he does. So much for "bi-partisan co-operation".

[Shamus]

Originally posted by Eagler

Yup, its too bad the guy on watch didnt stop that

shamus

[Silat]

Originally posted by lazs2
I figured that running hillary would be a good thing for me since she was sure to lose.   The dems will still field some left wing liberal.. they have to in order to capture their base.

lazs

Ive never seen a "Liberal" running.Kerry, gore, etc not liberal..Most dems are moderates..

[Silat]

Originally posted by lazs2
the problem is.. the democrats will cut spending by cutting the military.. it is an old ploy..  they will also raise spending to the point of killing the country by new entitilement programs..

Wars get paid off... entitlements grow to a bigger percent of the budget every year and.... you can't pull the tit away once the sucklings have gotten a taste.

Democrats have been the cause of about 90% of the ever growing debt that we have in this country...  the military budget goes up and down but the entitlement one just gets bigger and bigger and bigger.  How much does welfare and social security cost us all right now?   How much for medicare?

How much do we still owe for vietman?   When iraq is paid off will social security and medicaare be paid off?

To cut the military budget and raise entitlements is simply pulling the wool over the dumbest and most selfish amoung us...  

lazs

Not true. And google is your friend...........

[Silat]

Originally posted by wrag
Ya forgot one Laz, they will RAISE taxes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hillary already said it on national TV some time ago.

No worries Wrag. They said they were adding the 3 points back to those over $250 000.. Not tax everyone. But I dont know how we are going to pay the debt that the reps have given us without new corporate taxes..

That will not affect 95% of you all:)

[Silat]

Originally posted by Eagler

Sad... Reps always pull 9/11 when they are losing the argument.
But Ill bite Eagler.
Remind me whose watch that happened on?

[john9001]

Originally posted by Silat
Most dems are moderates..

only at election time.