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Offline Masherbrum

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« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2006, 09:06:38 AM »
We have a "hole-in-the-wall" Pizza joint not even a mile from us.   I always get mild pepper rings and ham on mine.    They do have the best pizza around here.

The best pizza I have had to date?   Dam Site Inn in Hell, Michigan.
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« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2006, 09:49:45 AM »
I have a stand mixer so making the dough is just a minutes worth of work at worst.  Pizza stones work fine but don't underestimate a 1/2 sheet or pizza pan with some olive oil on the bottom.  It's more effort to go pick up a crappy pizza than it is to make a good one.

P.S.  If you want something good and different try grilling your pizza.  I'll ellaborate if anyone wants to know.

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« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2006, 10:05:03 AM »
I wont tolerate spinecrapple or any other fruity vegetable thingies on my pizza.

The best pizza is made at home by the missus, some gooooood cheese, tomato sauce, beef, onions and a few spices... thats it. No more crap on it than that.

JUST SAY NO.. to addons and gadgets on yer pizza.

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« Reply #33 on: November 04, 2006, 10:35:06 AM »
I tried something new a couple of weeks ago that turned out awesome.  Sourdough crust.  (For a true deep dish)  Gonna make some more for football tommorow.


BTW- if you learn to avoid the chains, you can still get good pizza in the midwest.  We have a local chain for pan pizza called Micheleo's that is real good.  And if thin is what you want, nothing beats Monical's.  The thing I have trouble finding around here is a good stuffed pizza outside of Chicago.  All the local joints screw up the dough.

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« Reply #34 on: November 04, 2006, 10:41:46 AM »
doesanyone know a great recipe for deep dish?  I never could get that right.  Something close to pizzaria uno?  or better..?

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« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2006, 11:51:00 AM »
The oiled pan is a favorite of mine. My favorite pizzeria in Pisa (Il Montino) uses this approach in combination with a wood-fired stove. The result is a pizza that causes a bit of controversy, as its crust is almost fried, but for me, it's damn tasty.

The rock ain't a gadget -- it's how breadbaking should be done. Basic physics -- stick a pizza pan in the oven on a rack, and you have a round object floating in air, often on a nice metal conductor that spans the temperature of the raw dough and hot oven. Air is a good insulator. So the gradient between the center of the dough and the outside is shallow, resulting in a "spongy" pizza. If the pan doesn't have holes in the bottom, the bottom is actually softer than the rest, because moisture gets trapped. Then, when you slap toppings on it, the top of the pizza dough is raw -- since it cooks last.

But, you put a rock in there, and its porosity prevents the moisture from accumulating. And when the rock is hot, it stays hot, and cooks that pizza straight.

Now, for deep dish, I'd use an oiled pan on a rock, but at a lower core temperature (Say 400 degrees). Use a sponge the night before, high gluten flour, and get that yeast really going.

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« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2006, 02:36:10 PM »
Rabbid,

My dad goes to cooking supply stores and buys peels, stones, pans etc.  He got a spring form pan that he uses for deep dish that works pretty well I guess.  1 layer of toppings and sauce, a layer of dough, and more toppings I think is how he does it.  I've only ever had the standard pie.  Grilled pizza is, however, delicious.  

Do the same with quesadillas, lightly oil the side that will face the flame, add your cheese, chicken, beans, avocado etc.  Put on the other side and flip when they are crunchy.
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« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2006, 03:07:09 PM »
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Here here, storch. King Arthur makes a great pizza flour dough mix. Rao's Marinara is hard to beat for a jar sauce...pricey but worth every dime. Most supermarkets sell great fresh Italian Sweet sausage. Who needs DiGiorno's?


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« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2006, 06:25:59 PM »
I agree with Storch....make your own.

You'd be surprised how much larger, and how many MORE pizzas you can get (yield) made at home over the price of take out/delivery.

On Emeril Lagasse's website he has a recipe for "Tomato Sauce":

http://www.emerils.com/recipes/by_name/tomato_sauce.html

If you use it for pizza, just cut the basil to 1/8th cup, and add 1/8th cup of oregano....it's KILLER!

Once you use this VERY simple sauce, you will NEVER go back.

I use it on my home made thin crust, thick crust, and my favorite...Chicago Style Deep Dish...

BTW: most pizzas with sausage get greasy because the sausage was put on the pie raw.  I pre-cook sausage in a light basting of balsamic vinegar and let it sit on paper towels to get rid of the excess fat.

Stuffed crust is also a piece of cake....it's string cheese.

PS--Our community has an AWESOME pizza maker we can ask for advice, it's PAN (aka Panman back in Air Warrior)  he's with the "Regulators".



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« Reply #39 on: November 04, 2006, 07:38:40 PM »
Casino...  chicago style deep dish....  One thing I never mastered...  All of my others rock.  Suggestions?

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« Reply #40 on: November 04, 2006, 08:56:33 PM »
I like sausage on pizza.  Its one of the only things I like on pizza.

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« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2006, 09:42:22 PM »
Oddly enough...the worst pizza I've ever had was...in Italy.

:huh

Oh yeah, pizza isn't pizza without sausage on it.  And black olives.  The more the better.  **** yeah, I love pizza.
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« Reply #42 on: November 04, 2006, 09:47:28 PM »
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Oddly enough...the worst pizza I've ever had was...in Italy.

:huh

Oh yeah, pizza isn't pizza without sausage on it.  And black olives.  The more the better.  **** yeah, I love pizza.
  I agree.  pizza in italy is horrible.  I think the best pizza I've had is in chicago.

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« Reply #43 on: November 04, 2006, 09:55:51 PM »
Damn, you too?  Snipe's castle on mainside at NTC had stuffed style Chicago pizza that was the first of it's type that I ever tried.  To this day my favorite pizza was that at snipe's castle.  Especially on a cold miserable February day up there.
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« Reply #44 on: November 04, 2006, 10:23:59 PM »
one of my buddies recently had a client send him a chicago pizza on dry ice.

it arrived on his way out of town so he asked if we wanted it.

it had that specific beer flavoring that seems to find its way into all of the best midwestern recipes.

incredible.

made me homesick.

i agree.  you want good za?  

chicago.
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