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Offline justfreds

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« on: November 04, 2006, 10:05:31 PM »
next year my system will be 10 years old :( wonder what is the best route to go on getting a new one...... one that one cost a *****load of $$$ but will be a lot better than the box i have now.

specs on my box now:
Manufacturer: Compaq
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor, MMX, 3DNow, ~900MHz
Memory: 384MB RAM
Hard Drive: 27 GB
Video Card: RADEON 9200
Monitor: COMPAQ MV740 Color Monitor
Sound Card: Avance Sound

Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)

Offline ramzey

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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2006, 11:08:42 PM »
where are you located and how much you like to spend?
Under 1000? under 800?

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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2006, 11:43:19 PM »
under 800 definantly, i am located in birmingham alabama

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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2006, 12:19:24 AM »
Ok, i assume you not like to assembly it by yourself? would be chiper or at list more performance for price

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i would go with HP, dell is more expensive
video card is not strongest point, but not bad neither

its not top performance PC but not expensive neither
take look over here too
http://shop4.outpost.com/search?query_string=&sort=price&order=asc&order_by=p03a&cat=-46614&pType=pDisplay&from=0&to=24
« Last Edit: November 05, 2006, 12:32:21 AM by ramzey »

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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2006, 12:26:34 AM »
[EDIT: This post was typed with the idea you'd build it yourself]

It's possible, but cutting it close.

The problem with your old computer:

1) Your mobo and CPU are too old/slow

2) mobos that old have older RAM. You cannot keep this, and must by new stuff.

3) The Case for your old mobo might not be good for a new PC (old PCs needed little cooling, if anything. New ones need side vents over the CPU, and at least 1-2 other fans).

4) video card.

5) HD will be IDE, and slow. Not to mention has little storage capacity. Might look into upgrading to a SATA drive. Much faster read/write and mroe storage.


Going for the Intel chipset, only because I know these parts exist:

ASRock 775Dual-VSTA (cost $50 on NewEgg). Takes older 533MHz FSB chips and still allows upgrade to 1033MHz FSB chips later (including Conroe).

CPU: Here's the thing. You can get an OLD chip (cheap) and run it until you can afford a better one. Conroe prices will be dropping like rocks in a few months. I know for a fact that you can get a Celeron 2.56GHz 533MHz FSB chip for $50 on NewEgg. I just bought my sister one a couple of months ago. It is called "Intel Celeron D 331 Prescott 2.66GHz LGA775 64-bit processor w/ Execute Disable Bit Model _______" on the invoice slip. Price: $58.

This motherboard allows either DDR1 or DDR2, AND either AGP/PCIe. I've got this one now.

You need at LEAST 512MB ram, bare minimum these days. 1 GB better but costs twice as much. Can get them for about $50/512 or $100/1024.

POWER SUPPLY (caps for effect). Your old PSU can't support newer chips and vid cards. Especially considering the low amp requirements on older PCs. You need at least a 400W. I went with a nice, low-cost, but high-quality $45-or-so FSP Group PSU.

Video: You can keep your old card and upgrade later if you like. This mobo listed has both AGP and PCIe slots. I went with the best PCIe budget card there is. The Ge7600GT is one of the best cards out there, price-for-performance, and I got an eVGA "7600GTS" -- a GS card clocked at GT speeds (has a GS bios). Basically a GT but only cost $140. PCIe of course

Hard drive: Sata 1.5 120GB for $70. Can it get any better?

CASE: You've got a PSU, don't rely on one included with the case. Make sure it's full ATX, mid tower recommended, and has a side vent (or two). I got mine for $30 (no lie), but it's no longer being sold. It's black with a fire engine red cherry front. Now they only have plain black/beige of the same type (shame, really). The thing with cases is to get a CHEAP case. They range from $30 to $200. Go for the $30 side.

So if you recycle monitor, keyboard, floppy, CD-ROMs and burners, and all that stuff, you come down to:

Mobo: $50
CPU: (cheap/decent) $60/$200
RAM (512/1024): $50/$100
PSU: $40
Case: $30-40
Hard Drive: $70
Video Card: $140 (down to $100 for a low-end card)

So you come to
$120 for Case/Mobo/PSU alone
$230 for a Celeron CPU and only 512MB RAM, reusing 3D and HD
$370 for a decent CPU (Pent 4 3.0GHZ area) 512MB reusing 3D/HD
$630 for a decent CPU, 1GB DDR1/2, new HD and new 3D card.

Not counting price fluctuations and the like, that leaves some leeway for other things. Also allows some leeway if you want a better case, a better PSU, vid card, etc etc.

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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2006, 01:00:19 AM »
well i kinda want to put it together meself, dont want another factory made computer.

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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2006, 01:18:58 AM »
last week i swich from a64 3000+ for Intel Core 2 E6400 for 200$ (motherboard+CPU combo), for this price you cant event get CPU  at store (220$) :)
But i hunt for promotion at Fry's .

In your case, you have to buy everything. (not sure what condition your monitor is, mby you can salvage ).
Don't goo with AGP.
Buy 1 GB of ram , in 1 stick, DDR2 not DDR PC3200
IF you cant afford good graphic card now, buy  mobo with onboard graphic card. Then buy good PCI-e video.
everything else Krusty said in his post

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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2006, 01:45:10 AM »
well my current monitor....... is about shot the wires that plug into the tower are messed up which leaves me with a green screen some times. but i can salvage it

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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2006, 03:28:57 PM »
I wouldnt use the DDR2 RAM with the slower AMD64 processors.  DDR2 works great with Intel stuff, and you will see an improvement over DDR1 with the high end AMD stuff, but the slower processors work much better with DDR1 PC3200.  Its the latency.