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« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2006, 11:57:51 PM »
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both he and roadrunner are from Texas surely


I see them both atleast once a week.

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« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2006, 01:37:35 AM »
of course not every attempt at this sport ends without serious injury


http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-2805694245926347557&q=wing+suit&hl=fr


ROFL
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« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2006, 01:54:08 AM »
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« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2006, 04:57:53 AM »
would have been impressed if the guy did belly landing in the snow and slid down the cliff

:lol :lol :lol

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« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2006, 05:17:21 AM »
Gunthr, I really got you revved up but this was not my post's first intent (I'll admit that there are more polite ways to express what I said).

You have to understand though that it is insulting to call someone suicidal just because his risk level acceptance for a given activity is higher than yours. Notice the use of italics: I like to skydive, I'm attracted by BASE, but the mere idea of i.e. cave diving is giving me cold sweats. This is why I never use the fear card when someone antagonize my hobby: even if you think that the skydiving or BASE rewards don't amount to the risks involved, you may be doing something else that would make me puke out of fear (like HOing FW190s in a C.202 ;) ).

It all boils down to this: are the rewards worth the risks? It's a personal question and the answer differs from an individual to the other. One thing is sure, you have to skydive or BASE jumping for yourself, because you enjoy it, and not for trying to look cool to the others.

What are the rewards for me? Experiencing a real true freedom during 50-70 secs, flying a canopy, having my mind cleaned from everyday's problems and the pettyness of our lifestyle after a jumping day, meeting friendly people... I'm far from a good enough writer to be able to give you a glimpse of the feelings.
I'll be honest, the possibility of death plays a part too: it is, for me, exhilarating to do something unforgiving where you have to display skills to survive. You also have to discipline yourself: this is not a game and complacency is a door left open to nasty things. OTOH, I feel much better in my head today than 2 years ago and by realizing that every day my be my last one (a simple fact that too much of us forget too often), I feel that I have my life's priorities sorted.
My 0.05 $ theory is that human beings, like any other animal, have been programmed to deal with life-threathening situations on a regular basis. Our society aims at removing those situations from our lives. While it is certainly morally right to do so, I'm convinced that so much people are dysfunctional in the western societies just because of that

Are skydivers and BASE jumpers contributing to the evolution of technology? Certainly not as much as the Wright Brothers (who must've been called 'suicidals' more than once back in their days). Nonetheless, the sport practice has contributed to make better, smaller and safer parachutes and harnesses for pilots, airborne troops, smoke jumpers,... and also to broaden the use of those devices (i.e. military tandems used to bring a non-jumper tech/medic/translator/... where he is needed). It is also possible that BASE jumping  will eventually lead to the development of a parachute emergency system designed to quickly evacuate skyscrapers.

The BASE fatality list is well known in the BASE and skydiving communities. Some people on this list made (or, like the last entry, repeated :() gross mistakes or showed poor judgement; some did everything right and still died. Some were huge risk takers, some were more careful. Some were misfits, some were caring husbands and fathers. Most weren't suicidal. They were doing something that they loved, were aware of the possible outcome and (with one or two exceptions) weren't endangering anyone else (unlike the usual drunk Billy Joe speeding on the highway on a saturday evening). You may not approve, you may not understand, but please don't be disrespectful by passing an absolute judgement on something you know next to nothing about.
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« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2006, 07:11:05 AM »
deSelys,  I'm not against Base jumping or the sport of free fall parachuting.  

my statement was that if you leave NO margin for error, I think that suicidal tendancies may be present, because it then becomes a waiting game.  Unless one is highly qualified and and very highly experienced, it is not even possible to judge the risk.  I just wanted to point that out to the potential internetard who might be thinking about buying a parachute and having his mom sew him up a wing suit and then go jumping off a TV tower....


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« Reply #36 on: November 08, 2006, 07:45:12 AM »
Base jumping is one thing, freefalling alongside a mountain slope is suicidal. :aok
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« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2006, 07:48:00 AM »
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...I just wanted to point that out to the potential internetard who might be thinking about buying a parachute and having his mom sew him up a wing suit and then go jumping off a TV tower....
 


I'm 100% with you on this one.


I forgot to say that I have 2 kids (8 and 5 years old) who are already bored stiff with jumping stories. I've also subscribed an extra insurance covering my jumping activities.

And finally, with this link, I'll be guilty as charged of trying to look cool to the O'Club :p :

my 131st jump - baby wingsuit checkup
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« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2006, 07:50:02 AM »
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Base jumping is one thing, freefalling alongside a mountain slope is suicidal. :aok


Freefalling alongside a mountain slope IS base jumping!!! Geez, are you even paying attention???????!!!!

:p :lol
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« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2006, 09:12:31 AM »
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Freefalling alongside a mountain slope IS base jumping!!! Geez, are you even paying attention???????!!!!

:p :lol


Did you even watch the video? What he did is pretty friggen far off from standard base jumping. Every base jump I've seen involves a vertical cliff or a building, they don't jump off a chopper / aeroplane and GLIDE down a non vertical cliff as this guy did. One false move and he would have lawndarted.
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« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2006, 09:31:29 AM »
MrRipley, I was just joking. I know it wasn't a BASE jump (it wasn't a 'freefall' either).

But most BASE jumps from a B or E object have the jumper falling close to the cliff face/wall. With a wrong body position, it is possible to back into the object in less than a second.
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« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2006, 09:48:42 AM »
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Anyone weird enough to jump from a perfectly good airplane/helicopter with only wings and a parachute, is mentally unstable.

Anyone willing to do the above, and marry off his sister just to do the so said event above...

Is psychotic.


And people who go off and pretend to relive some of the worst moments in human history, complete with historically-accurate equipment and garb represent the epitome of psychlogical health.

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« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2006, 10:08:53 AM »

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« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2006, 03:39:58 PM »
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Just a little reality check here fellas:


http://hometown.aol.com/base194/myhomepage/base_fatality_list

Anytime you leave NO margin for error, you are being suicidal, IMHO.


Thats alot of deceased jumpers:(
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« Reply #44 on: November 08, 2006, 05:16:02 PM »
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OMFG these guys take the top spot!!!!!1

http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=-3974234622304108819&q=wing+suit&hl=fr





im still stunned by this one, did anyone watch it.   these two nutters have the 'snow cliff jump' made to look like childsplay.



this is truly the most incredible thing i have ever seen or thought of.




i will do this one day, or die trying.
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