Tank cannons versus ord

[calan]

Has anyone ever collected any information about the amount of ordinance required to take out ground targets, vs the number of rounds from various cannons required to do the same?

I'm curious as to how the cannon loadouts (i.e. Hurr IId, Yak-9T, etc.) for ground attack planes compare with ordinance weights, as far as destructive power is concerned.

I'm talking strictly AH here... not IRL.

Thoughts?

Calan

[Lusche]

Originally posted by calan
Has anyone ever collected any information about the amount of ordinance required to take out ground targets, vs the number of rounds from various cannons required to do the same?
 

Yes, people have done this:

Look here to see how many lbs are needed to destroy a structure

And from another thread:

Originally posted by scJazz
This update includes PT Boat's 37mm and 40mm guns as well as damage from Shore Batteries and Cruiser main guns.

Gun Type                Dam in #
.303 Browning AC 0.296
.303 Browning GV 0.3125
7.6mm ShKAS 0.296
7.7mm Breda - SAFAT 0.28
7.7mm Type 97 0.296
7mm MG 17 0.3
.50 M2 AC 1.17
.50 M2 GV 1.25
12.7mm Breda - SAFAT 0.95
12.7mm Ho-103 0.998
12.7mm UBS 1.15
13mm MG 131 0.92
20mm B-20 3.47
20mm Hispano Mk II 4.03
20mm Hispano Mk V 3.94
20mm Ho-5 3.36
20mm M2 AC 4.03
20mm MG 151/20 3.55
20mm MG-FF 3.25
20mm ShVAK 3.47
20mm Type 99 Mk 1 3.42
20mm Type 99 Mk 2 3.85
23mm VYa 5.62
30mm Mk 108 11.63
37mm NS37 16.67
40mm Vickers S 13.89 *
37mm PT Boat            13.2
40mm PT Boat            15.6
37mm HE Ostwind 15.15 *
37mm AP 15.6  #1
37mm HE 31.2  #1
75mm AP 78.1  #1
75mm HE       156.2  #1
88mm AP       117.1  #1
88mm HE       234.3  #1
3.5" Rocket       140.0  #1
4.5" Rocket        93.0  #1
5" Rocket       156.0  #1
RS132       125.0  #1
RS82        93.0  #1
WGr21       200.0  #1
Shore Battery          250 - 500 #2
Cruiser Gun            250 - 500  #2



* The Vickers S and 37mm HE Ostwind are the only weapons I
am not 100% certain of the full series of tests had very
inequal results. The value shown is the maximum damage
inflicted per round. I suspect that the variance is caused
by a bug in the burst dispersion code.
#1 Testing for the GV main guns and rockets was different.
I fired 1 round into a hanger and constantly tweaked the
hanger's damage resistence until I found the maximum single
round damage.
#2 The Main Guns on the Cruisers fire 3 shells at a time
each shell does 250lbs to 500lbs of damage. If all 3 hit then the
target just took 750lbs to 1500lbs of damage. The damage is scaled by
 range 250lbs at maximum range, 500lbs at point blank, 390lbs at 6400 yards.

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[calan]

So those numbers are equivalent ordinance in pounds for each round?

Do you have the thread link handy?

Thanks Lusche



Calan

[Lusche]

Originally posted by calan
So those numbers are equivalent ordinance in pounds for each round?
 

Yes they are. This way you can easily deduct the number of rounds needed to destroy a structure with a given weapon.

And the thread is http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=97083

[calan]

cool...   I sent jazz an email, but he hasn't posted in 2 years, so I doubt he's even still around.

Any idea if this data is still valid?

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Any comments HT?  Has the damage per gun changed in the last couple of years?

To repeat Jazz's original request... Please oh pretty please... can I have some charts with the damage per round?  

[Lusche]

Originally posted by calan

Any idea if this data is still valid?

It should be. I donīt remember any basic changes in the last few years.

[zorstorer]

But remember this is for taking down a building, not a GV.

Tigers can be killed outright with the 190F8's panzerblitz 1 rockets.

[Bruno]

Btw: Destructive power on buildings and airplanes, will not give you the same values in AH.

HiTech

[mussie]

Hey Bruno....

Do you know which post that quote is from ?

[Bruno]

Aircraft Gun Comparrison questions.

From the thread linked above:

No need to test, with ground structures range has no effect.


HiTech

[mussie]

Ah yes Bruno I remember that one now Thanks