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Offline cav58d

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« on: November 09, 2006, 04:10:10 PM »
President Bush is a liar for saying Sadaam Had WMD's right?  So are these people liars too?????????

"Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people." -- Tom Daschle in 1998

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998

"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he has 10 times since 1983" -- National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb 18, 1998

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
   - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

 "We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
   - Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998


So are they liars too?
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« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2006, 04:17:07 PM »
its kinda water under the bridge now Cav, like alllegations of Republican voter fraud
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2006, 04:20:41 PM »
I have always beleived that the dems are hypocrites.
Its always struck me as odd that WMD to them seems to only mean nuclear weapons.
In the past saddam has used bialogical and chemical weapons. They even found some of his chemical stuff a while back but, the media down played it.
i remember back in the 90's saddam holding up detonators for nuclear weapons. nobody made a peep about them when the war was going on.
Maybe he didnt have a nuke but, he did have parts to build one (like detonators) and if he did build one and we didnt attack, Bush would have been blaster for not invading.
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2006, 04:23:16 PM »
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its kinda water under the bridge now Cav, like alllegations of Republican voter fraud


No it's not bridge over the water...1/2 the freaking democrat candidates ran of bush being a "liar" in the 06 election...

so I ask again....Are those people mentioned above liars too?
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Offline john9001

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« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2006, 04:25:11 PM »
no no cav, they were misunderstood, what they said back then is not what they meant to say when they say it now.

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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2006, 04:28:48 PM »
Cav....  They're all politicians...
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2006, 04:30:04 PM »
Vud...Thats not answering the question...
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2006, 04:33:25 PM »
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Vud...Thats not answering the question...


Yes, it is.

They're all politicians = they're all liars.
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2006, 04:37:41 PM »
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Yes, it is.

They're all politicians = they're all liars.


It's one thing to call all politicians liars...It's another to single out Bush and call him the soul liar about WMD's...Its a much bigger scale were working on
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2006, 04:49:07 PM »
Who called him the soul (sic) liar about WMD?

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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2006, 04:50:21 PM »
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Who called him the soul (sic) liar about WMD?
That is the perception here though, Thrawn, despite everything said by both sides prior to the war.

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« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2006, 04:54:53 PM »
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Yes, it is.

They're all politicians = they're all liars.


Vudak,  I generally disagree with you on everything political.  At last, my friend, we see eye to eye.

 Yes, I am a gun toting, pickup driving, card carrying member of the Republican party.  Thats why I think you're wrong on everything else!  :aok

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Re: Are they Liars????
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2006, 05:16:50 PM »
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President Bush is a liar for saying Sadaam Had WMD's right?  So are these people liars too?????????


Yes.

Not because Iraq didn't have WMD, but because they're politicians. It goes with the job.

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« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2006, 05:17:09 PM »
if clinton would have had the balls and did what Bush did instead of letting saddam pull the world around by its nose for 8 years, the media & the left would have hailed him as a hero ...

the dems were for the war before they were against it ...
hope they do not feel the same way about the war on terrorism, I don't think they do as I do not think they believe there is a war at all .....

they are all for pulling out of Iraq when just months ago they were yelling at bush for not going into lebanon with Israel ... of course they didnt mean that either as it was just a ploy for the jewish vote ..

yes most politicans lie, but some lie sometimes while others lie all the time .. we are in the hands of the "all the time" now ..
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Re: Are they Liars????
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2006, 05:17:52 PM »
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President Bush is a liar for saying Sadaam Had WMD's right?  So are these people liars too?????????

Some in this administration had this to say on Feb. 21 '01

We had a good discussion, the Foreign Minister and I and the President and I, had a good discussion about the nature of the sanctions -- the fact that the sanctions exist -- not for the purpose of hurting the Iraqi people, but for the purpose of keeping in check Saddam Hussein's ambitions toward developing weapons of mass destruction. We should constantly be reviewing our policies, constantly be looking at those sanctions to make sure that they are directed toward that purpose. That purpose is every bit as important now as it was ten years ago when we began it. And frankly they have worked. He has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors. So in effect, our policies have strengthened the security of the neighbors of Iraq...



So are they liars too?


What's so suprising, we all know that politicians lie, but a lie to support the run up to war is considered one of the most insidious types of lies by most civilized people.